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datilpickles t1_jbao14n wrote

The PA cannabis system is a joke in every sense. Nothing medical about it.

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ohmygoditsdip t1_jbaq75a wrote

Exorbitant prices, no true edibles, vapes that clog, medical strains named “Trainwreck” and “Green Crack,” discounts on some days but not all days so screw you if you can’t make it in that day, strains that disappear from menus after we’ve grown accustomed to them… I’m sure I’m missing some of my usual complaints

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sixplaysforadollar t1_jbazy5v wrote

The biggest complaint should be the DUI laws. As soon as you get a medical card you’re at risk to get a DUI at literally any point bc it doesn’t matter if the last time you medicated was 6 days ago since it’s still in your blood you still get tagged with the dui.

And then you just basically pay a few thousand dollars.

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Mijbr090490 t1_jbbvcsn wrote

That and employment laws. Kinda stupid that I can come back from the weekend and everyone has a drinking story. But say about smoking some weed and you'll be getting a call from HR.

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DestroyerOfIphone t1_jbb9dac wrote

You also can't have a ccw and medical card.

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sixplaysforadollar t1_jbbaylg wrote

Yeah that’s also a big one. Personally, I’m more concerned about dui laws but can totally see how people would be as upset or more upset about Ccw laws

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Level_Equipment2641 t1_jbdtx9q wrote

Under Bruen, this prohibition is unconstitutional, at least according to the Fifth Circuit in U.S. v. Jared Michael Harrison. The demonic DOJ is appealing, but the writing is on the wall. Note: The Harrison decision isn’t necessarily binding on PA’s district, but per Bruen, the ban on ownership, possession, and carriage (LTCF) is patently unconstitutional. This domino will fall soon — and for good. That said, IANAL; consult a competent atty.

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SeptasLate t1_jbgehjk wrote

Yeah there needs to be some effective way of testing if drivers are stoned while operating their car.

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EvetsYenoham t1_jbbnyst wrote

I mean yes technically THC stays in one’s system for 30 days depending on body fat content but if you haven’t smoked in 15 days how you getting a DUI?

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Knoblord_McCheese t1_jbbobok wrote

Because it's a zero tolerance law. One microgram in your blood an old wham, you're DUI.

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EvetsYenoham t1_jbbqf66 wrote

But how would you get pulled over to be tested anyway? You’re still high after 15 days?

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imamunster123 t1_jbbstsf wrote

It doesn't matter how you get pulled over.

Let's say the cop pulls you over for a tail light that's out, but finds some bullshit probable cause to test you for DUI. If you've used cannabis in the last month, you're pretty well fucked due to the incredibly low limit for THC in the blood mentioned above in this thread.

The way the law is currently written, if you use cannabis on a regular basis, you are technically committing a DUI every time you drive in PA, whether you are currently high or not.

This combined with the fact I can't legally own a firearm with a medical card is why I haven't bothered to get one. It doesn't offer me any real protections or benefits for the fees I'd have to pay, and it's giving documentation of my cannabis use to the state that can be used against me when the cops see fit.

Thanks, but no thanks.

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EvetsYenoham t1_jbbuvgi wrote

So you get pulled over for speeding and they give you a blood test? Ok.

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imamunster123 t1_jbbw47o wrote

If the cop comes up with a reason for probable cause, or can show reasonable suspicion that you are intoxicated (classic "I smell burnt cannabis in the car" bullshit) then yes. They can detain you until a blood test is done.

Never said they SHOULD be able to do this, but it is 100% plausible.

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MomsSpecialFriend t1_jbcb8uv wrote

Yes. My son went through this, the cop wasn’t satisfied with the clear breathalyzer at a routine traffic stop and wanted blood for weed. He refused and has to get a fucking interlock in his car and spent multiple years suspended over the whole thing.

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curatedaccount t1_jbfvx5g wrote

> He refused and has to get a fucking interlock in his car and spent multiple years suspended over the whole thing.

This is probably a dumb question, I expect everyone knows the answer, but here it is:

In retrospect, do you think it was a good idea to refuse the blood test and take the license suspension rather than getting the blood test and certainly failing?

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MomsSpecialFriend t1_jbg0nk9 wrote

Honestly I think fighting a marijuana charge would have been cheaper and had a better chance at being successful. The DUI you get for refusal is so expensive and you can’t fight it.

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WinterWontStopComing t1_jbebul0 wrote

I got pulled over once for a single rear view mirror going over the line on an empty stretch of road late at night. I always comply, and try to be as nice and courteous as I can. Had not been doing anything wrong. Was not under the influence of anything.

That stop ended with me and my passenger handcuffed on a squad car while a canine unit searched my vehicle for fifteen minutes.

Things involving the police can and do occur for vague, obscure and otherwise surreal reasons regardless of whether it offends your incredulity

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randompaaccount t1_jbcf92i wrote

Could be literally any reason. There was a woman who had a seizure at a traffic light but she got a dui because they tested her at the hospital.

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PickelPaint t1_jbbki9d wrote

Can't grow our own like other legal states

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ohmygoditsdip t1_jbbmi0d wrote

Yes!! That should have been my top complaint. Would certainly save a lot of money and help a lot more people.

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PickelPaint t1_jbbogv9 wrote

Oh I almost forgot; people still have weed charges on their record. Meanwhile, the state sells it as medicine.

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DonQOnIce t1_jbaqjuy wrote

What’s the deal with the edible situation? It all seems to be capsules.

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ohmygoditsdip t1_jbaqtnp wrote

Caps, tincture, RSO

Edit: but no gummies, no lozenges, no beverages, no baked goods.

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JennItalia269 t1_jbar5pz wrote

IIRC Illegal per state law. Gov Wolf thought they were too similar to Candy that kids can get at.

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awuweiday t1_jbas4a6 wrote

It's such a dumb take too. The packaging is completely different, usually including child-proof locks. We have a wide variety of alcoholic drinks flavored and styled after every kind of soda. I'm a grown adult who wants to get high off desserts in my living room. Why does the government have any say in that?

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stevez_86 t1_jbat8gq wrote

And yet lollipop and bubblegum vodka is A-OK.

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Trundle-theGr8 t1_jbekbzt wrote

Cotton candy mango vodka with a literal Pixar style cartoon character in the commercial/on the label: I sleep

Much (MUCH) safer form of ingesting thc for people with lung issues that would also fucking double dispensary sales: REAL SHIT?

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DonQOnIce t1_jbat3r6 wrote

Thanks for the info. That’s really something.

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DaddysAllieCat t1_jbbidny wrote

Um dude have you ever been to Colorado the strain names in medical are named funky names too. Secondly I hate to give you the news flash but the universe doesn't revolve around you. Try going to the grocery store and complaining to them when items you want go on sale ugh smdh

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WinterWontStopComing t1_jbebavw wrote

Don’t forget the musician owned product placement jammed down our throats pretty hard with a release party like it was a fucking alcohol label.

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HomicidalHushPuppy t1_jbaupqi wrote

The list of doctors who are authorized to prescribe is hilarious - dermatologists, hair loss specialists, plastic surgeons, etc. Almost none of the qualifying conditions are treated by such doctors. There's one on the list who's registered address is his personal house, but I can't find any records of him actually practicing in PA. The bureaucratic BS citizens have to put up with is infuriating yet there seems to be little oversight of the prescribers.

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PawBandito t1_jbbkd8d wrote

Or the fact that that the dispos only focus on THC and none of the other medicinal cannabinoids like CBG, CBN, CBDA, CBGA, CBC.

It is really shameful.

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