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MarmalAIDs OP t1_jdhmqw2 wrote

Reply to comment by Peaceoorwar in To challenge a school bus camera ticket, potential issue from bus driver. by MarmalAIDs

I get what youre saying. The ticket said theyd need me to list someone if it wasnt me.

Yes 5 points and 60 days suspension is mandatory in PA from what Ive found

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111victories t1_jdhq6nh wrote

I’m pretty sure these automated tickets are just fines and not suspensions. Only if pulled over by an actual officer would the latter apply

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111victories t1_jdhqjhd wrote

Edit: you should Google the school district whose bus it is. They typically have more information on their website including whether it is just a fine or not. I’m down in Delco and I know that is the case in our SD. Have seen the cameras and now extra cautious (always was) around the busses. Eat the fine, it’s just money.

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MarmalAIDs OP t1_jdhr4ri wrote

Im in Delco too.

If it's certainly just the $300, then awesome. Thats like just a day or 2 of work, vs 2 months of no work via suspension lol.

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814lifechanging t1_jdhztqb wrote

Incorrect. My husband was at a 4 way stop, he turned right, bus was to his left going in the complete opposite direction and he got 5 points, 60 day license suspension. He tried to fight it and lost.

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111victories t1_jdi0ntm wrote

Was your husband ticketed by a bus camera? First time? According to my SD, “In Pennsylvania, a first-time stop-arm violation witnessed by a stop-arm enforcement carries a fine of $300 and no points.”

You’re incorrect.

https://www.rtmsd.org/Page/460

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814lifechanging t1_jdi195a wrote

Yes, bus camera, first time. He received a letter in the mail after the fact and went to traffic court. He is now currently suspended. Erie Pa. I'm not incorrect.

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111victories t1_jdi1hmz wrote

Can’t both be right.

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814lifechanging t1_jdi1m7b wrote

I guess but that's exactly what happened.

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111victories t1_jdi24nt wrote

Read the State Code:

A violation under this section shall not: (i) be deemed a criminal conviction; (ii) be made part of the operating record of the individual upon whom the penalty is imposed under section 1535 (relating to schedule of convictions and points); (iii) be the subject of merit rating for insurance purposes; or (iv) authorize imposition of surcharge points in the provision of motor vehicle insurance coverage.

https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/LI/consCheck.cfm?txtType=HTM&ttl=75&div=0&chpt=33&sctn=45&subsctn=1&mobile_choice=suppress

335.1(c)(4)(iv) is posted above. No points. Either your husband did it before (occam’s razor) or somehow the law is different in Erie. Or municipal error, I suppose

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814lifechanging t1_jdi3xyl wrote

Thanks for the info, I will look in to it. Maybe my husband has lied to me😄 certainly wouldn't be the first time.

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MarmalAIDs OP t1_jdic02u wrote

I called the number on my ticket.

Apparently, no points or insurance hikes from when it's a camera. If a police officer witnesses it or pulls you over, then it could be different. Maybe a police officer witnessed your husband but didn't pull him over.

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MarmalAIDs OP t1_jdi5gpr wrote

This was something Ive read on the back of my ticket. The wording of that felt confusing to me, like it looks like it says no points/suspension would happen, but then again that just doesnt...seem right lol like I HAVE to be reading it wrong to have title 1535 list the points, but my ticket says im not going to lose points.

EDIT: You're correct! No points or insurance hikes if its just a camera that catches you. It's different if police catch it happening.

This puts me at ease, you and 814lifechanging are good people.

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