SuggestAPhotoProject t1_isk8172 wrote
Reply to comment by ThunderySleep in Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick's Record in Congress on LGBTQ Issues Earns Him a ‘D’ from the Human Rights Campaign - Bucks County Beacon by Open_Veins_8
Is there something in the article that’s untrue?
Or are we just throwing around shade? I notice that you’re a four month old account that didn’t exist prior to this summer, is that relevant, too?
Open_Veins_8 OP t1_isk8j8z wrote
The Beacon clearly states that it is a progressive publication. It was just launched in 2021. You can see all the local people involved in the about us page. I think Thundery Sleep just doesn't like its progressive politics. https://buckscountybeacon.com/elementor-2492/
ThunderySleep t1_iskc89i wrote
Homeopathic medicine has its warnings in the fine print as well.
This is spam relying on deceiving users into believing it's an established local news source. You didn't name this junk site Bucks County Progressive, you deliberately named it to appear like a general local news site.
Open_Veins_8 OP t1_iskcvj3 wrote
It is an established news source run by an editor with years of experience, with paid freelancers, and local oped contributors. You just don't like the politics - which is fine, you can read the "Delaware Valley Journal." Also, the Beacon was just named finalists for a few awards by LIONS Publishing https://www.lionpublishers.com/2022-lion-awards-finalists/ Again, you can keep trolling, I'll keep correcting, and everyone else will keep reading.
ThunderySleep t1_iskecm4 wrote
It's not an established news source. It barely even has a functional home page.
I click on one other article and random and it happens to be scraped from other sources, the site's entirely political except for one article that I saw.
It doesn't even reach the top three search engine results pages on google for "local news bucks county pa". I'm not criticizing it for not making the top three results... It doesn't even appear on the top three PAGES.
Yet, it's dressed up as a standard local news journal, when it's not. That's deceptive. It's exactly how homeopathic medicine is sold.
Open_Veins_8 OP t1_iskf5gj wrote
Again, the website works. You are lying. I was just on it. The Beacon is fed through Google news. And being a new publication, of course more legacy media outlets like the Courier Times would show up. The Beacon's work has been sited in The Phildelphia Inquirer, WHYY, etc. You can keep with your deceptive right-wing trolling, I will keep correcting you, and folks will keep reading.
ThunderySleep t1_iskfucr wrote
The website doesn't consistently load images and has text that vibrates all over and hijacks scrolling. It barely works.
Being a brand new site from this election cycle, I don't blame you that it isn't the top result, or even in the top handful of results. But your site doesn't even make it into the top three pages.
This is not "deceptive right wing trolling" this is calling out your deceptive practices.
Open_Veins_8 OP t1_iskgcmj wrote
The website does load images - I am on it now. Nothing is hijacking my scrolling. Again, our work has been cited by WHYY and The Phlialdelphia Inquirer, among other outlets, so they take the Beacon seriously. Your right-wing trolling is taking up too much of my time now, to be honest. I'll correct you one or two more times, but then I'm gonna check out.
ThunderySleep t1_iskgre1 wrote
> doesn't consistently load images
That's what was said. And you're using scroll-jacking on your homepage. Of course you don't know what that means because you can't build a decent functional site, much less are you a journalist as opposed to someone spamming propaganda from a deceptive site thrown together less than a year ago.
This is a political spam site dressed as local news that doesn't even appear in the top three pages of google's results for "local news bucks county pa".
Open_Veins_8 OP t1_iskh8py wrote
Again. You are lying. The Beacon is fed through Google News, cited by WHYY and Philadelphia Inquirer, and was just named finalists for Independent Media Awards. https://www.lionpublishers.com/2022-lion-awards-finalists/ But keep vomiting your trolling, lol.
ThunderySleep t1_iskhyq9 wrote
Now you're just repeating the same irrelevant responses. And you're supposed to be claiming you aren't deceptive?
> The Beacon is fed through Google News
This has literally nothing to do with the statement that it does not get listed in the top three pages of google's SERPs for the query "local news bucks county pa". This is a statement of fact and highlights incompetence. Even being under a year old, you should be able to make it in there, but there are good reasons (which I won't state) you're not being listed.
But on this one, I genuinely think it's a coin-toss whether your misunderstanding here is incompetence vs deception.
yeags86 t1_isl5khh wrote
Minus getting into the top search engine results, it’s still miles ahead of Trumps pathetic website that has double posts half the time.
ThunderySleep t1_isl60vo wrote
What website are you talking about?
And no, this site is absolute trash in a lot more ways than one. As far as the search results go, it's not that it's not "in the top results", it's that it's so far back it barely gets indexed at all. Three pages back is deep, and it's probably more than that, I just only bothered to check back three pages.
But the joke that it is on a technical competence level isn't the point. The point is that it's a malicious propaganda site aimed at deceiving viewers into thinking it's an established local news source for Bucks county.
yeags86 t1_isl8pw7 wrote
Search Donald Trump. First result. Or did you forget how to do your own “research”?
ThunderySleep t1_isl9tnh wrote
Okay, what?
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/ ?
This is a professionally built website, regardless of what your politics are.
What point are you trying to make here?
Not only is OP's scam site not professionally built, suggesting this isn't a legitimate organization, much less an established local news journal (which it's not, this is a scam site made to look like local news), this isn't even built by a competent hobbyist or a tech-savvy person who isn't a developer.
At least try to argue over the line of where something becomes deceptive. The structure of this website is objectively bad. There's not even an argument to be made against that.
Not only is the site scammy and dishonest, the people suspiciously coming out of the woodworks to make their first reddit comment of the day in defense of this site, don't seem remotely intelligent.
yeags86 t1_islnliw wrote
So Trumps website isn’t scammy and dishonest?
And if that’s a professional website, if Trump even actually paid for it, he didn’t get his moneys worth.
ThunderySleep t1_ismh0t7 wrote
Wtf are you talking about?
yeags86 t1_ismj1sz wrote
If you can’t follow the conversation, you should probably just leave it.
ThunderySleep t1_ismrvqd wrote
I'm following, it's pretty pathetic on your part.
> And if that’s a professional website, if Trump even actually paid for it, he didn’t get his moneys worth.
Is everyone involved in this spam site a two-year old? That one is clearly a normal website built by a developer. You don't even have to be a developer to build a competent, functional website. Any remotely competent adult with access to a computer with internet can manage to build a functional site. You guys have multiple people involved in this and still couldn't pull it off.
scotticusphd t1_isloo5d wrote
Bringing up website quality in lieu of the substance of the message is losing the forest for the trees. Holding Trump's website up as an example, given that he's a fraud under several criminal investigations, say a lot about your shallow values.
ThunderySleep t1_ismhiy7 wrote
Are you illiterate?
/u/yeag86 held Trump's website up as an example, not me. As consistent with my other interactions all these people chiming in deep in this thread to make their first reddit comments of the day to defend this scam site seem to be complete morons.
Nobody is talking about Trump, we're talking about this barely functional scam website built by some tech illiterate moron with a WYSIWYG.
The average person off the street could assemble a better functioning site. You guys can't even figure out why you're not being listed in the SERPs.
The quality of the site is indicative of it being a scam website, posing as an established local news site.
scotticusphd t1_ismil4p wrote
Do you have a critique of the article or just more dumb posturing? I'm still hearing irrelevant posturing.
Not sure why you're bent out of shape about a new local news site.. most people welcome local journalism, up until you hear something that upsets you.
ThunderySleep t1_ismrgvm wrote
It's not irrelevant to point out buckscountybeacon is a propaganda spam site deceptively posing as a regular pre-existing local newspaper. That's what this conversation is about. The one you logged into reddit to partake in.
What's irrelevant is you randomly dragging Trump into the conversation. But like I said, it's not exactly intelligent people behind this.
scotticusphd t1_isnqohv wrote
Do you also get mad when a new restaurant pops up in your neighborhood? Jesus...
ThunderySleep t1_iso8u99 wrote
This isn't comparable to a new >any legitimate business< because buckscountybeacon.com is not a legitimate journal. It's a propaganda spam site posing as a local news source to deceive readers.
There are no professionals involved, hence not being able to build a functional website or even make it into the top three pages (probably more, I just didn't look farther) on google for "local news bucks county PA". The first link I clicked on at random was duplicate content from elsewhere.
This is a propaganda spam site masking a regular local news source. It's a scam.
scotticusphd t1_isofbfv wrote
... or maybe you just don't like their message. It's not uncommon for new businesses to not have their SEO sorted out, in the same way that it's common for scams to exploit SEO to make themselves look legitimate.
Methinks you just don't like hearing about gay people so you're looking for any excuse to attack the messenger.
ThunderySleep t1_isofwtl wrote
No, bucskcountybeacon.com is a propaganda spam site posing as a local news source.
> It's not uncommon for new businesses to not have their SEO sorted out, in the same way that it's common for scams to exploit SEO to make themselves look legitimate.
What are you talking about? It is uncommon for legitimate businesses centered around a website to be incapable of building and maintaining a functional website.
Professional journalists aren't using WYSIWYG editors to fake a local newspaper for their articles. If they don't have the resources to form a proper journal, they write articles on medium or substack.
This is not a legitimate news source. This is a scam website posing as a local newspaper. It's a con, and not a competent one.
scotticusphd t1_isoglwa wrote
What's the con? Can you dispute the facts being reported? Are they stealing money? Or are you just slandering them?
Their website is fine... it's no different than most websites, and frankly looks nicer than Reddit.
ThunderySleep t1_isogzge wrote
The con is posing as a local news site. This is a shitty blog some partisan activist put together with a WYSIWYG editor and dressed up as though it's a legitimate local newspaper. buckcountybeacon.com is a fake local news site, poorly built with a WYSIWYG. It's not slander, this is objective truth.
scotticusphd t1_isoyzx7 wrote
Who cares if they're using a WYSIWYG editor? Most journalists aren't web developers... most of the internet is Wordpress, so I don't understand why you're bent out of shape about that.
It says a lot more about you that you're not engaging with the facts of the article and instead choose to attack their choice of web technology. My hunch is that their reporting makes you uncomfortable, which says to me that they're probably doing a great job.
ThunderySleep t1_ispwdtr wrote
Having a regular website which any competent adult could build demonstrates professionalism that might suggest it's a legitimate organization.
> Most journalists aren't web developers
No, but most competent adults, let alone professionals in any field that involves using the internet, can put together a marginally competent website.
Most journalists are capable of running their own wordpress site. In fact, if they don't use substack, they typically do have their own wordpress sites. But not a single person involved your scam was able to put one together competently.
The gross incompetence with a basic professional skillset signals it's not a legitimate organization. Which is what this discussion is: Pointing out that buckscountybeacon.com is a propaganda site imitating an established local newspaper.
This is a malicious propaganda spam site, posing as a local newspaper.
scotticusphd t1_isqat3f wrote
It's a small, progressive local news organization. Your characterization as a scam or malicious propaganda has everything to do with your unwillingness to accept someone else's point of view. You STILL haven't addressed any of the substance of what they're saying, and you're fixated on the quality of their website, a website which is just fine, by the way.
>No, but most competent adults, let alone professionals in any field that involves using the internet, can put together a marginally competent website.
...and they have a marginally competent website. It's no better or worse than most other small Bucks County businesses. Jesus. It's not the New York Times or Mother Jones caliber because they don't have that much money and their beat is a semi-rural county.
ThunderySleep t1_istasy3 wrote
No, this is a scam website. Bukcscountybeacon.com is a propaganda spam site disguised as an established local newspaper.
There's essentially no local news on the site, it's 95% leftist propaganda, much of it not even specific to PA, and of the little content I clicked on, it turned out to be republished content from elsewhere.
It's not a marginally competent website. The average person off the street could build something more competent than this. Images don't load consistently, load time is terrible, layouts are broken, scroll jacking is broken, text is vibrating. This is not competent.
Any actual journalist is capable of building a proper wordpress site, given that they tend to have their own wordpress sites. Which are used for and presented as what they are, their blogs. They don't fake being the local paper.
It's beyond a budget issue, it's a basic competence issue, and indicates these are not professionals in any capacity. Like I said, it's a scam website. A bunch of political propaganda dressed up as if it's a local newspaper, and now the people behind this scam are in this thread lying about it and their intentions.
As far as me focusing on Bucks County Beacon being a fake newspaper, that's just what the discussion is. It's telling that you're jumping into this thread 60 replies deep demanding I change the subject. Bucks County Becon's a political spam site disguised as an local newspaper. It deliberately uses a dated logo and everything, despite not existing prior to late 2021.
scotticusphd t1_istb4p3 wrote
Yeah, you keep saying it's a scam and fake but you haven't shown any evidence of a scam. You really have no idea what you're talking about, but you're continuing to run your mouth anyway.
Goodbye forever.
PensiveLog t1_it8nvz9 wrote
Lol sounds like you picked up some malware buddy. Or are still trying to use Internet Explorer.
ThunderySleep t1_itabq1x wrote
Wtf? Was that really your attempt at sounding tech-savvy?
Malware has nothing to do with SERP results or any of the issues I've described. As for the IE reference, what is this, 2006?
edit: Oh I see, it's you. You logged back in today to spam your WYSYWIG site... Funny how you chime in five days after this convo happened, when suddenly buckscountybeacon, newly built propaganda site disguised as an existing local news source, is being spammed again. Did you use the wrong account by accident, or did you think this six day old account chiming into this conversation now, passed for another user?
PensiveLog t1_itbks1e wrote
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 yeah this is definitely a spam account, and not someone who stumbled upon this thread. Glad you’re totally correct and not just paranoid.
_KnightsDelight_ t1_iskl7ct wrote
I just went to one of the links and i gotta agree it’s a trash setup. Lol.
ThunderySleep t1_isklzrk wrote
Yeah, the technical quality is an aside from the politics of all this, but it's pretty bad, and doesn't exactly shout authentic local news.
edit: "The Elementor website builder allows WordPress users to create and edit websites by employing the drag and drop technique"
It's built with a WYSIWYG plugin for wordpress lol
SpectacledReprobate t1_iskkjab wrote
Be careful with this guy, make him mad and he’ll randomly start shitting on you for being poor
ThunderySleep t1_iskniv1 wrote
When have I ever done that?
That's not at all something I'd do. At least claim that I'm some right winger like the rest of the slanderers.
SpectacledReprobate t1_iskodka wrote
> In 2008 I was going to a fancy private school in one of the most liberal cities in the US and an Obama supporter. Chances are I’m better educated, in better shape, with whiter and straighter teeth than you.
Most self aware (R) voter
Loved that response more than you could know, by the way.
ThunderySleep t1_iskonhw wrote
How about you link the context of you repeatedly suggesting that I'm some back woods redneck because I disagreed with you?
Nobody called you poor, let alone "shit on you" for it.
I pointed out that I'm not the straw-man caricature you were fantasizing I was.
ThunderySleep t1_isk86sp wrote
I'm pointing out that it's a spam account, from a spam site masquerading as established local news.
But it speaks volumes that you'd defend that.
SuggestAPhotoProject t1_isk8fql wrote
So the article is one hundred percent factual?
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