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JacoDaDon t1_itxq1vi wrote

The only people I see actually feeling bad for JF are his ideological opposites. Meanwhile his “supporters” have no problem throwing him to the wolves when he clearly had no business on stage.

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thepwnydanza t1_itxqccg wrote

You’re the one assuming that he wasn’t fit for the stage based on what? His speech patterns? Did you listen to what he actually said or how he said if? Because what he said is more important than whether or not he was speaking smoothly.

Some of us aren’t ableist and don’t assume a speech issue means a person isn’t capable and intelligent.

I mean, look at you, I’m sure you speak well but you’re neither capable or intelligent.

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That_Guy704 t1_ity4nux wrote

Just because people criticize JF doesn’t make them an ableist. Just throwing that at everyone that has a different opinion than you diminishes the harm actual ableists cause to people with physical or mental disorders.

In all objective reality, JF looked absolutely lost. He had zero business being on that stage. His handlers and team should be ashamed of putting him out there so unprepared. The republicans are going to take that terrible performance and plaster it everywhere and use it to paint brush all Democrats in the midterms. JF needed to be at home, resting and getting back to 100% while someone else took over. His campaign has continuously lied about his condition for weeks and now the Dems are going to fight an even tougher battle because of this.

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thepwnydanza t1_ity5nx0 wrote

> Just because people criticize JF doesn’t make them an ableist.

Where did I say that was the case?

> Just throwing that at everyone that has a different opinion than you diminishes the harm actual ableists cause to people with physical or mental disorders.

No one’s done that.

> In all objective reality, JF looked absolutely lost.

He responded to the questions with real answers. Oz dodged questions.

> He had zero business being on that stage. His handlers and team should be ashamed of putting him out there so unprepared.

Based on what? His speech?

> The republicans are going to take that terrible performance and plaster it everywhere and use it to paint brush all Democrats in the midterms.

Because they’re ableist and using a disability that has 0 effect on his ability to lead to attack him instead of going after his politics. That’s what ableism is.

> JF needed to be at home, resting and getting back to 100% while someone else took over.

He was fine. Despite your opinion.

> His campaign has continuously lied about his condition for weeks and now the Dems are going to fight an even tougher battle because of this.

No. They haven’t.

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That_Guy704 t1_ity7u5y wrote

This… this is a joke, right?

You insinuated the commenter before is an ableist when you said “some of us aren’t ableist and don’t assume a speech issue…”

You then paint brushed all republicans as ableists.

Oz dodged questions 100% but Fetterman absolutely, objectively bombed that debate. Please highlight any response Fetterman had where he was actually able to defend any real position he was called out on.

I’m very curious as to what questions you feel Fetterman gave “real answers” to.

Also, Oz didn’t address Fetterman’s stroke or symptoms once in that debate and literally only made it about the policies.

Either you’re giving an A+ troll job or you watched a completely different debate

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