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[deleted] t1_iu1vyhe wrote

That always seems to be your go to. Attack people without hearing them out. I have ALL of my vaccines up until I was 23. I then experienced a vaccine injury from the HPV shot. How does now being contraindicated for vaccines and telling people they should make informed decisions instead of blindly following the narrative make me a bad person? Unless you ACTUALLY think those who profit off of you being sick want you healthy?

I was once pro-vaxx, until their product harmed me. The fact that you bully and gaslight those of us with negative experiences confirms that we are NOW on the right side of history, unfortunately we had to become victims of these industries before we woke up and we just want others to know there are risks and they should make an informed decision. If that makes me a bad person to you, fine that’s your opinion on me. But as someone who was harmed- I am never going to not talk about it.

That being said, just watch the page Libs of TikTok. The only thing she does is retweet TikTok’s from liberals talking about grooming kids, planned kid friendly drag shows, etc.

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KyleRichXV t1_iu2idlg wrote

HAHAHAHAH suuuuuuure you were "vaccine injured" pal, sure. You know, it's been quite some time since I tore an anti-vaxxer to absolute shreds but, for you (since you've been a transphobic stain on this sub for the last day) it would be an injustice if I didn't absolutely belittle you into oblivion, so buckle up, little guy.

First and foremost, I can all but guarantee you didn't suffer an actual, severe adverse event (what you so eloquently call an "injury") due to 1) the insanely good safety profile of the HPV vaccines (quite interesting, and telling, that you didn't mention a brand, just "the HPV shot"......curious) on the market and 2) the fact that you're calling it an injury in the first place, lol (we'll get to this later.) According to the CDC, for example, an SAE such as anaphylaxis are only seen in about 3 out of 1,000,000 doses given and no higher-than-normal adverse events seen with HPV versus other vaccines (same source.) If the CDC isn't good enough for you, another article found a "severe AE" rate of about 3-5% based on VAERS data in the US from 2008-2016 (however, this shouldn't be an end all, considering no causality is ever established between reporting and vaccination - it could have been minutes, it could have been weeks, it could have been months after - anything can be reported and left unverified). So, statistics alone says you're full of shit.

Another telling part of your "being pro-vaxx" is the fact you frequent the conspiracy sub. That's usually not a completely 100% tell all........except for something like vaccines, which literally no person in that sub thinks are safe - if they were right in all their predictions about vaccines, we'd be pumped full of poison while healthcare providers hold us down, and people would be dropping like flies regularly with no explanation. This isn't the case, because people on that sub have absolutely no fucking clue what they're talking about with respect to vaccines (and I say this as someone who has worked in the vaccine manufacturing industry for 13 fucking years so I think I might know a thing or two about what these studies and what the manufacturing processes entail.) I can absolutely tell you got your vaccine bias from there, and without question attributed any reaction you had to the vaccine and were sold on the idea of "vaccines = dangerous" like the good little bobblehead you are. And while I can't prove it, I can almost guarantee the sequence of events went something like Experienced something that made you feel "off" --> weeks passed --> vaccines mentioned in conspiracy sub or in a FB group about "vaccines = poison" --> your pathetic little brain said "oh! that was definitely the vaccine." Lol.

It's also blatantly obvious how full of shit you are that you're, suddenly, "contraindicated for vaccines" despite only reacting to one? No medical professional would say "wow! You're now sworn off all vaccines for the rest of time!" after one specific injection from one specific brand using one specific vaccine platform (VLPs versus LVVs - go ahead and look those up, dear, then come back.)

Now, let's get back to your account history and why this tells a story of you being dumb. Besides the frequenting of the conspiracy sub, you also spew a whole lot of very blatantly incorrect information about the "dangers" of vaccines. The biggest one is for not being able to sue a manufacturer (not surprising, this is usually the first buzz-saying of any simpleton anti-vaxxer such as yourself that gets your information from fellow simpleton anti-vaxxers without giving it much thought.) You're also wrong about how it's funded; it's not "tax-payer" money in the slightest. The cost of the vaccine includes a "fee" of sorts that will go to the "fund" for future pay-outs of definitive vaccine reactions that make it through the system. Trying to pin the whole "vaccines are evil because they use our taxes!" is so blatantly stupid and verifiably wrong in so many ways lol. Also, look up the bill/law that put the vaccine court into effect; it literally says you can sue the manufacturers in court, still; should you disagree with the decision of the vaccine courts. This whole "they can't be sued!" thing is so disingenuous and you fell for it hook, line, and sinker lol.

Now about this whole "informed consent" thing - that happens, and for you to claim no one is given information prior to injections is just so much bullshit it would be laughable, if it wasn't so fucking dangerously stupid. You were 23 when you got the HPV vaccine? Cool - I'm going to go ahead and wager you weren't held down and forced against your will to get it, since you were a legal adult? Guarantee you had to sign a form, or hear something from the medical professional at the time, indicating what the risks and benefits of the vaccine were. So, you knew the risks, and any and all reactions you experienced were the result of you being informed and going through it anyway.

And this whole bullshit of "you're gaslighting! That means I'm right!" HAHAHAHAHAHA FUCKING WHAT?! Calling you stupid for your stance on vaccines means you're right? Do you not hear how there's no logic to that? I call Nazis stupid, too - guess that "proves" they're on the right side of history? You're just letting your insignificant persecution complex get the best of you because being a contrarian anti-vaxxer makes you feel special for once in your miserable life, and you're scared to lose it.

So, you can continue to "never not talk about it" but just know that the actual, real smart vaccine scientists behind the scenes aren't laughing with you, kumquat, we're laughing at you and we'll never miss an opportunity to pinpoint exactly why everything you're regurgitating is wrong, farfetched, and blatantly stupid.

Oh, and TikTok is not a fucking valid source of research. I can see why being an anti-vaxxer is appealing to you, it's much easier to be ignorant than smart lol.

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