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AlVic40117560_ t1_iu2fxjb wrote

Reply to comment by LenniLanape in Shocking corruption: Federal agents capture Philadelphia Deputy Sheriff on video selling two of the guns used in deadly shooting after Roxborough High School football scrimmage by IdunnoabouttheseDems

You could try doing an ounce of research before you just believe what you see in a political ad campaign. I’d say you probably actually think Dr. Oz killed puppies too, but I bet you conveniently don’t believe that one before even looking into it.

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Clarck_Kent t1_iu2k7d3 wrote

I was wondering for the last few years why so much gets spent on political ads until I was watching a football game with some neighbors and the commercial with the serious gravelly voiceover saying Fetterman wants to let all the murderers out of prison came on and one of the neighbors was like “Oh my god! Is that true?”

Then I understood it completely. They keep spending the money because it works.

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PPQue6 t1_iu2rcee wrote

Those are called "low information voters" or otherwise known as morons.

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AlVic40117560_ t1_iu2v8se wrote

It’s taken me until this election to find out how effective those ads are. Anybody I know that is against Fetterman brings up the “he wants to let out murders!!” thing. First of all, good move Oz campaign. That’s been wildly effective.

I’ve explained it to a bunch of people at this point and it’s either they realize how they got dooped by a political attack ad, or they just keep making worse and worse excuses which leads me to believe they are just going to vote for the person their party was going to put up anyways.

The first time I saw the murders ad, I thought “that’s concerning. Let’s look more I to that.” Then when you actually look into it, it’s not what it sounds like at all. Apparently the 5 minutes of research is much more than what most people will do.

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psychcaptain t1_iu2vicl wrote

He did bank roll research I'm which puppies died though, right? Or was that disproven?

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AlVic40117560_ t1_iu307l0 wrote

Like most of these things, it was a half truth. He was doing cardiac testing on dogs. He’s a heart doctor and at the time, animal testing on dogs was pretty standard. The medical community has since moved away from dogs for the most part, but what he was doing wasn’t out of the ordinary. I haven’t looked into it since the first time I looked into it so my numbers may not be perfect, but I think there were 3 dogs out of about 300 over a 15 or so year period that were in question for being mistreated. One of those three based on the investigation was treated humanly after having complications. The other two ended up staying alive for a few days after being paralyzed when they should have been euthanized. And Dr. Oz wasn’t the actual person doing any of these tests. He was just on the board I believe.

So was Dr. Oz involved in killing puppies? Yes. Was he maliciously killing and torturing puppies? No.

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bikingwithscissors t1_iu481nd wrote

If you look at the experimental design for some of those studies, one of them involved opening up a dog's chest, attaching a pacemaker to the heart to simulate tachycardia, and then pumping various drugs into the dog to see if any slowed down the heart rate... which surprise surprise, none did because drugs don't stop a pacemaker. That one alone involved around 30 dogs. The experimental design was inherently flawed and it puzzles me how the proposal made it past the university's ethics board.

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SomeOtherOrder t1_iu49xa7 wrote

That’s a whole lot of words for “yeah he killed some dogs”

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LenniLanape t1_iu40vbw wrote

So glad to see the ads worked so well. We, as neighbors and Pennsylvanians are now so gullible, so divided and no longer show any respect for one anothers opinions. After having worked in the advertising industry I can say that the candidates got their money's worth and (listen carefully) there is NO truth in advertising. There should be disclaimers on ALL political advertising.

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LenniLanape t1_iu3olkb wrote

OK. So much for sarcasm. After ALL the negative ads that we've been bombarded with and in alignment with standard reddit responses I thought wrong. Looks like everybody has their panties in a bunch.

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