Borg_10501 t1_ixx9dnc wrote on November 27, 2022 at 2:25 AM

Reply to comment by KindKill267 in 1st day of rifle season --- good luck to all you hunters! by Bocephus8892

So much for "managing the herd". Thanks for proving my point.

KindKill267 t1_ixxajng wrote on November 27, 2022 at 2:35 AM

Haha your idea of reintroducing natural predators is so far out of the realm of what would be sustainable for the ecosystem it's laughable. If big cats and wolves were brought back to PA the amount of livestock and pets killed would be staggering. Not to mention the human attacks.

Borg_10501 t1_ixxnp9z wrote on November 27, 2022 at 4:28 AM

> amount of livestock and pets killed would be staggering

It's common sense that you shouldn't be letting your pets roam around unsupervised. We still have bears and coyotes. Wolves aren't going to change that factor significantly.

As for livestock, well, I don't believe we should be breeding livestock. Ranchers are a big problem with conservation efforts because they continuously put demands on state governments to cull predators. Not to mention that on a global scale, ranching is the #1 reason why the amazon rainforest is being destroyed. It's also unethical because, like with hunting, you're killing something unnecessarily just because it "tastes good".

> Not to mention the human attacks.

Wolf attacks are rare. Unless you're encroaching on their space by destroying habitats or removing their food, they're generally wary of people. You're far more likely to be attacked by the neighbor's dog.

Fatal dog attacks from 2005-2017 is 430. Average of 36 deaths per year.

https://blogs-images.forbes.com/niallmccarthy/files/2018/09/20180914_Deadly_Dogs_Forbes.jpg

Fatal wild animal attacks from 1970 is 299. Average of 6 per year.

https://outforia.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Anima-attacks-fatal-wild-by-species-0821.jpg

Wolves account for only two of those over a span of 51 years.

Usually fatal attacks from wild animals are either because of rabies or because the wild animals (bears especially) got too comfortable with people because they were being fed.

KindKill267 t1_ixxqhia wrote on November 27, 2022 at 4:55 AM

Personally I have no issues killing an animal. Have you ever watched another animal eat another animal? Zero emotion.

Wolf attacks are rare because wolves are rare and are only populated in pretty much wilderness areas out west. In PA with our super high population densities they would have to be all over the state iot control deer populations. There would be a much higher conflict rate if there were wolves in central PA. Wolves could easily hop a fence and kill your dog.

I agree with you on the farming aspect. Large corporate farms and monocrop agriculture is highly destructive and gross with all of the chemicals in use. But you have to feed the people because no one can apparently grow a garden and learn to can anymore.