discogeek t1_iurgng9 wrote
It's not a fair trial for the jury; it's a fair trial for the accused. You're obligated as a member of society to participate, and (supposedly) every class / race / orientation / ideology is required to participate.
That's how things work. Everything else in your post honestly is just complaining. We don't do jury duty for the benefit of the jury, we do it to keep a civil society.
JediLion17 t1_iurkc8l wrote
You really think a jury full of people worried about paying their bills because they are missing work to be on the jury doesn’t hurt the accused?
You can’t have a sound and rational jury while forcing those serving on the jury to go days without their normal wages. They will do everything they can to reach a conclusion ASAP.
discogeek t1_iurmows wrote
You can get out of jury duty for hardship reasons. All you seem to be doing is making up excuses for not fulfilling your civic duty.
JediLion17 t1_iurs8bo wrote
I’m not making excuses for myself. Did you think you were responding to the OP?
And if one can get out of jury duty for financial hardship then we really don’t have trial by a jury of your peers, we have trial by a jury of the wealthy.
Jazzlike_Breadfruit9 OP t1_iurjsqp wrote
How is the accused supposed to get a fair trial when lots of people financially cannot take the time off? That takes away a lot of working folks, which skews the fairness.
InsaneAss t1_iurlm30 wrote
You make it sound like everyone with a financial hardship is getting excused from duty. That’s far from the case.
Jazzlike_Breadfruit9 OP t1_iurn1ai wrote
Agreed, but when the jury deliberates don’t you think some people might agree to a verdict so they don’t have to report back for more days if they really need money?
KFCConspiracy t1_iurs6hc wrote
Where there's a will there's a way. "Fuck the police" "Jury nullification" "I think more crimes should have the death penalty" "You know why saudi arabia has less stealing? They still cut hands off"
IamSauerKraut t1_iuri1ni wrote
>We don't do jury duty for the benefit of the jury, we do it to keep a civil society.
Now do this in the context of the PA legislature which gets a 2nd recent large pay increase this upcoming year.
P3as_And_Carrots t1_iurizt5 wrote
So… it’s not okay to complain about the possibility of not getting one week worth of wages?? Bruh…
KFCConspiracy t1_iurs0sm wrote
If all the accused can get is the dumbest motherfuckers around and retirees with nothing better to do, that isn't really a fair trial for the accused.
minneapple79 t1_iurvgzy wrote
Not sure why you're getting downvoted. If a person on this board is ever accused of a crime, he or she will have the right to a trial by a jury of their peers. That's what we are all taking part in as part of our democracy.
If you can't afford to go for jury duty, note that when you fill out your form.
EmpiricalAnarchism t1_ius8xv9 wrote
And knowing that the state is the one that brings charges, why would I vote to convict based on their evidence when they think so little of my time and expertise that it’s worth barely more than a dollar an hour? County solicitors and judges are extremely well paid despite PA’s courts being a lawless, arbitrary, and capricious institution.
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