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BurghPuppies t1_iy63yoy wrote

Not taking sides on this, but it IS interesting that people who didn’t vote because they didn’t stick around until 10pm when ballots were available are called “disenfranchised”, whereas people whose mailed ballots were received late or undated just had their votes tossed.

Also… how in the Dwight Kurt Schrute did they run out of paper so close to Scranton???

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Feeling-Bench3966 t1_iy6pu0z wrote

Let me make this abundantly clear, no one ran out of BALLOTS. There were Emergency Ballots which can be ran through the tabulator the only difference is it is filled in by pen and not printed from a printer. Every polling ward received 100 of these. Then the provisional ballots are given in an over abundance for use when the voter and or circumstances around the vote need to be reviewed. These are all fixed with a ballot number and a unique ballot receipt that corresponds with the ballot. There are instructions on how to check the status of the ballot on the ballot receipt. Anyone who couldn't vote chose not to because they wanted to use the printer to mark their choice rather than a pen.

On the other side, Luzerne County should be ashamed of itself and how their ineptitude has added another layer of doubt to an already skeptical public. The lady who runs the Election Bureau needs to be fired( she already is an elected official for the county seat city government who should not have been allowed to serve both positions as per the law), an investigation as to who knew what and when needs to be done by the state and the results need to have some type of future checks and balances that should be done and made public BEFORE the next election. Things like make the amount of backup paper each machine receives be made standard and double checked before and on election day. Make sure the phone number for the bureau is always answered by a person especially on election day even if it means putting callers in a queue. Make sure the voicemail system can always take voicemails!! I've heard from a good source that the voicemail was full the weeks leading up to election day and on election day leaving callers to have to continuously call back until an understaffed and under paid office employee answered.

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just_an_ordinary_guy t1_iy880dd wrote

That's just how my normal ballot is in my district. You fill in the bubble with pen and run it into the machine.

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TheUltimateSalesman t1_iy7znvl wrote

Why is better for elected officials and the citizenry to certify an election with doubt than to certify one without?

Until the state releases all the source code for the machines and tabulators, it's all bullshit anyways.

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StupiderIdjit t1_iy8569k wrote

Because you assholes "doubt" it regardless of the abundance of evidence you're shown. You make up claims out of thin air, are debunked with actual physical evidence, and just whine "well I still don't believe it."

And the rest of us are supposed to just go along with you and pretend like it's valid concerns and opinions? We'll never have an election without doubt because you fucking conspiracy theorist morons consider email chains and "WHAT ABOUT?!" questions evidence.

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better_med_than_dead t1_iy9ssou wrote

You don't get to hold up democracy just because you're an ignorant fool.

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TheUltimateSalesman t1_iy9szze wrote

Sure you do. It's called due process. You hate it until it benefits you. Be happy you can even seek redress, I've lived in communist countries, and you can't question ANYTHING.

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better_med_than_dead t1_iyf2ocr wrote

Due process says that the Election results are to be certified by a specific date, regardless of what some (likely biased) Pennsyltuckian might "believe", elected official or not.

Regardless of actual election law (which you clearly don't even understand, LOL), there's zero evidence of fraud. Perhaps you should go back to your previous country of residence instead of trying to push your election-denial ideals here.

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TheUltimateSalesman t1_iyfab5e wrote

And people have due process rights. Get over it. You don't know if they have evidence or not, you're not a party to the suit.

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BureaucraticHotboi t1_iy6l8df wrote

Yeah the running out of paper is the real scandal. Anyone allowed to vote should have no problem doing so no matter the method. Conservatives have been grabbing onto the disenfranchised language…well maybe invest in good election practices but that would require actually working towards good governance instead of just pointing around wildly yelling “conspiracy!”

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