Submitted by BoggyRob t3_z83bg9 in Pennsylvania
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ahhhhhhhhyeah t1_iy9vc75 wrote
It does matter, because they absolutely will try this when their votes potentially do shift the election.
Electr_O_Purist t1_iy9vgsv wrote
And lose in court like they have been all along.
ahhhhhhhhyeah t1_iy9y8cq wrote
Right now with the current court appointed judges…
No-Professional-1884 t1_iya36ta wrote
Most are the judges that threw out Trump’s BS, soo….
ahhhhhhhhyeah t1_iya5892 wrote
Yes, they are. But what do you think will happen in the future if a republican president appoints conservative judges are vetted to rolling back voting rights? This matters, regardless of the outcome.
Cogatanu7CC95 t1_iybd982 wrote
President doesn't appoint PA state judges
ahhhhhhhhyeah t1_iybfvno wrote
Right, thank you.
dherrmann t1_iyb4716 wrote
These are not federal judges
fartjokes4prez t1_iyadegp wrote
GUYS, WHAT IF THIS MADE UP SCENARIO WAS TRUE?!?! WOULDNT I BE SO RIGHT THEN
ahhhhhhhhyeah t1_iyafzn5 wrote
Good job completely misunderstanding my point
TacoNomad t1_iyako3e wrote
That's why you have to keep voting
fartjokes4prez t1_iyajeqp wrote
Your made up point was addressed.
Hopeful_Scholar398 t1_iycha5b wrote
It's really not unreasonable to think these election denying conservatives would appoint judges based on whether or not they'd be open de- certifying election results that don't go their way.
discogeek t1_iycidvr wrote
"In 2022 we threw out Luzerne County votes because of a paper jam... in 2024 we threw out Philadelphia's votes because some pillow salesman made a documentary that aliens manipulated the minds of voters there."
Plane_Vanilla_3879 t1_iy9nmwz wrote
Going to enjoy conservative tears for decades to come. 😩😭😩😭😩😭
chickey23 t1_iy9owqe wrote
Mostly at funerals
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Shift-Subject t1_iyap8vh wrote
Whys that?
chickey23 t1_iyapf89 wrote
Because they are old
Shift-Subject t1_iyapzrv wrote
All of them are. If you're young and joining either of the two major parties, you really shouldn't be trusted. The "lesser of two evils" is evil.
chickey23 t1_iyaq7b7 wrote
I agree in principle. The system must be reformed or replaced, but failing that, there is a marked difference in the social policies that conservatives put into law
Shift-Subject t1_iyarcbh wrote
Why not dismantle the power of government and nullify laws all around? I mean... I'm not going to follow unjust laws whether it was Shapiro or Mastriano. They're both pieces of shit.
chickey23 t1_iyarx8z wrote
Government does more good than harm. Removing government policies and procedures without having replacements in place will be destabilizing. Rather, a progressive replacement of government apparatus is the only method to build a better future
Shift-Subject t1_iyatk2d wrote
Government does not do more good than harm. Government is the cause of most of our problems on both sides of the populist isles. Government should function on the local level and in accordance with the local populous.
Muscadine76 t1_iyawctl wrote
Yes, hyperlocal control has historically worked out great for minorities and economically marginal groups. And for pretty much any problem requiring large-scale coordination, like: infrastructure, pollution control, healthcare, etc.
Shift-Subject t1_iyaytg4 wrote
Centralization of government is better? Lol
Muscadine76 t1_iyaz6q6 wrote
That’s not what I said. But for some things a more centralized government is basically essential. The key is a good balance between more localized and more centralized forms of government.
Shift-Subject t1_iyazxgh wrote
I disagree. I think the more localized solutions are, the better focused they are, and the more autonomy (freedom) is given to the localities.
Everyone likes to say there's a social contract, but nobody likes to take responsibility for their end of it.
Muscadine76 t1_iyb1kyu wrote
Your disagreement isn’t based in anything different than a religious doctrinal declaration of faith. The idea that “government is the cause of most of our problems and those problems would be solved if we only had local government” is nonsensical to anyone actually familiar with contexts where there are no functioning government or only local/tribal governance. And handwaving wishful thinking doesn’t solve any of the issues I already mentioned.
Shift-Subject t1_iyb1z5k wrote
Well, we haven't mentioned any problems yet, so your accusation and argument are based on your imagination.
The only claim I've made is that localities can focus on local problems and provide solutions that centralized government can't... you've yet to refute the claim.
Muscadine76 t1_iyb28lw wrote
I literally listed problems earlier so I guess reading comprehension isn’t your strong suite. But also I’m not in the habit of arguing with religious fundamentalists. Have a nice delusional day.
chickey23 t1_iyav95t wrote
Your local, self-governed population will be absorbed by a larger neighbor. Happens every time
Shift-Subject t1_iyayqsi wrote
It should be defended with weapons if necessary. Decentralization should prevent larger absorption.
chickey23 t1_iybaieu wrote
Your proposition is that we replace a global system of international cooperation with an endless series of armed camps
Shift-Subject t1_iybb0zl wrote
Lol you think we have an operational system of international cooperation?
You mean ideological colonization?
How many countries do we have to bomb into oblivion before it becomes concerning?
chickey23 t1_iybgg4k wrote
I'm in favor of a complete reform of government and social organization, but I firmly believe that cooperation is more efficient than competition
Shift-Subject t1_iybh4yx wrote
Cooperation and competition go hand in hand (economically) but states should be able to negotiate state concerns. With other states and across nations. The United States was meant to be a consolidation of mini-nations (not exactly, but essentially).
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Shift-Subject t1_iyb3qxe wrote
Shapiro is decidedly a piece of shit. Put me there.
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Shift-Subject t1_iyb3vgm wrote
>One evil wants to deny my right to make life or death decisions about my own body.
Lol gross
>The other evil believes black, brown, gay, trans or female people deserve to be treated like people.
... what??
They're both evil.
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Shift-Subject t1_iyayn0d wrote
They're totalitarians. They're the ones who will go along with what they're told to go along with no matter what. The democratic consensus now is pro-war. Never thought I'd see the day, but those people hold no value outside of the in-groups values. Republicans are just as bad, they just don't wear it on their sleeve the way dems do.
Cogatanu7CC95 t1_iybid7u wrote
repubs literally wear antisemitism and anti-democracy on their sleeves they are the ones that committed treason with the terrorist attack on our capital
Shift-Subject t1_iybjfm5 wrote
Ok Rachel Maddow
spoookytree t1_iybyfdb wrote
Lol WHAT? Republicans OOZE off their sleeves what the hell you talking about 😂
Shift-Subject t1_iybymvu wrote
Republicans don't seek absolute conformity the way democrats do. Theres Republicans running ads against people who doubt the 2020 election and are not happy with party leadership. Meanwhile, the democrat messaging is monolithic and mainstream. What the hell are you talking about?
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Shift-Subject t1_iyb8amg wrote
Lmfao 🤣🤣🤣 it's self-classification. Hearing that claim in 2022, the age of intersectionalism, is just cringe.
Shift-Subject t1_iyap5rg wrote
And? I still won't follow either of their laws if they subvert the constitution 🤪
Electr_O_Purist t1_iyawfzn wrote
Ok, Mr Badass, don’t follow “tHeIr lAwS”- I doubt that they’re planning to cancel Sons of Anarchy anyway, lol
RaccoonsAreNeat2 t1_iyb872i wrote
Another example of hilarity! Kudos, you snarky bastard!
Shift-Subject t1_iyayas7 wrote
If they made gay marriage or abortion illegal, would you abide? If not, are you always a hypocrite?
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glberns t1_iyaukxo wrote
I mean... show me a liberal who threw a tantrum so hard they committed sedition
Buc4415 t1_iyb4zy8 wrote
What do you call attacking the White House and forcing the president into an anti terrorism bunker?
I would argue they aren’t liberal, they are progressive/leftists though so yea, I can’t find a “liberal” who committed sedition.
glberns t1_iybav95 wrote
And what crimes were those people convicted of? Was it seditious conspiracy?
No.
Because they were not trying to overthrow the government.
Also, Trump says that he wasn't in the bunker because of the protests, but for an "inspection"
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glberns t1_iyck8kt wrote
I was asking about the White House protests. None of those people were charged, nor convicted of seditious conspiracy.
tractor_pull t1_iycu79v wrote
Misread. I redact
Buc4415 t1_iybb6tv wrote
So crimes only happen when there is a conviction? That’s weird. Crimes are always measured in reports and not in convictions because of legal maneuvering and just because the offender hasn’t been caught, doesn’t mean a crime hasn’t been committed.
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Buc4415 t1_iybd2sq wrote
You didn’t address anything I said at all. Lol. Convictions or lack there of don’t mean a crime hasn’t taken place.
Also, the first paragraph seems to have a part that is applicable
“destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof,”.
I’d imagine attacking the White House qualifies here…. Lol. You can try to explain this away though. I’m looking forward to “but actually this isn’t that bc trump was a fascist”
glberns t1_iybez72 wrote
The burden of proof is on you to demonstrate how anyone in that incident tried to overthrow the government.
Buc4415 t1_iybgw61 wrote
You are having trouble staying focused. Crime isn’t measured in convictions, it’s measured in reports. If person X gets murdered, and the killer is never found, person x still got murdered. Lack of conviction doesn’t mean crime wasn’t committed. Lol. You can keep trying to play semantics but it’s a weak game.
Let’s examine another source shall we.
Let’s be real, that’s not your burden of proof. If it was, you would be vying for 90% of the people who entered the capitol on 1/6 to be freed or charged with trespassing. You don’t actually care about “proof that anyone tried to overthrow the government”. Lol The people who attacked the White House are on your side and the people who attacked the capitol aren’t so it’s different.
glberns t1_iybjdzf wrote
I don't know what part you're missing.
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That most people at the Capitol were only charged with trespassing, assault, vandalism, etc. (I.e. not seditious conspiracy)
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That Rhodes and the Oath Keepers enacted a months-long plan to overthrow the government that included radio communications, weapons stockpiles, armed teams waiting to get called in, etc. You have shown none of this for the White House protests. No planning. No weapons. No organized violence. No explicit intent to overthrow the government. All of these were present on 1/6.
Buc4415 t1_iyblvtx wrote
So is it the norm for people to be held without bail for trespassing, assault, vandalism, etc… even those without any priors? This seems like a new thing for dems who have been championing bail reform even for people with prior felonies.
Yea cool. You are attacking an argument I never made. Awesome. I literally never said “no one planned to overthrow the government”. While I did say 90% didn’t, and I didn’t verify that number, I feel fairly confident you can’t connect any sort of criminal conspiracy to 90% of the people who entered the building.
So let’s bring this back full circle now. Should people charged with simple theft, trespassing, vandalism be held without bail? Do you think it is a miscarriage of justice to hold those people without bail? If you want to say simply attacking government property/ government employees isn’t sedition, then cool. I look forward to you appealing to Merrill Garland that it’s a miscarriage of justice to hold those people without bail.
glberns t1_iycveec wrote
I don't know what kool-aid you've been drinking, but most January 6th defendants have been released on bail.
>“Of the hundreds and hundreds of folks who have been arrested in the Capitol riots, the majority of them, most of them have received some sort of bail,” Rahmani said. “But the folks that engaged in the most violent acts, they are being detained without bond.”
And this isn't full circle. This started when you insisted that the White House protests constituted sedition. They didn't. You've made no effort to show that their actions fit that crime. You've only made the bizarre insistence that because a crime was committed, it's sedition. That makes no sense.
Nice try at moving the goalposts though. It's become abundantly clear that you aren't interested in having a good faith discussion, so I'm done here.
Buc4415 t1_iycw0j9 wrote
How long did they spend in jail, without bail set? You keep moving the goal post here. They were held for months without bail being set. They were treated like violent repeat felons. I just find it weird the party of bail reform kept so many non violent offenders in jail without setting a bail amount for them for such a long time.
You are a shifty one but I’m gonna nail you down on this.
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Electrical-Wish-519 t1_iyavto7 wrote
Pretty sure Trump appointing 3 judges to get Roe overturned had a major effect for lots of people.
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Electrical-Wish-519 t1_iyawh6j wrote
No, but answering your dismissive statement that both political parties are the same and that voting doesn’t make a difference gives me a smug satisfaction.
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venusinfurcoats t1_iyb4pv7 wrote
Nah, fascists are always bad. That includes cops and the modern Republican party
glberns t1_iyb572l wrote
>Like liberals don’t throw 1000x more tantrums lmao
You clearly care about one "side" more than the other.
>I just think it’s hilarious you people think and believe everything you’re told
Do you not believe that Republicans are refusing to certify elections? Do you not believe that the Oath Keepers have pled guilty and been convicted of seditious conspiracy?
>Like it’s amazing how brainwashed everyone has become to think these elections even make a difference or have any real effect on anything.
Tell that to the hungry children who were lifted out of poverty because Democrats gave their parents monthly child tax credits over Republican objections.
Tell that to the senior citizens who will save hundreds of dollars a month next year because Democrats capped their insulin costs at $35 per month over Republican objections.
Tell that to the millions of people who have health care because Democrats expanded Medicare and forbid being denied insurance to preexisting conditions over Republican objections.
Tell that to the women who get sepsis because Republicans forbid their doctors from performing a D&C.
Elections have consequences.
RaccoonsAreNeat2 t1_iyb7wlr wrote
You're missing the definition of hilarious. u/glberns is hilarious.
HeyImGilly t1_iy9jpx8 wrote
Anyone know how it works here? From what I’ve heard about Arizona, the counties who aren’t certifying will just have their votes thrown out, resulting in them actually losing a house seat to a Democrat.
hostile_rep t1_iy9s8lk wrote
My understanding is this sets precedent so they can disenfranchise key counties in 2024.
HahaWeee t1_iy9ue48 wrote
That's probably ultimately the plan which is why it shouldn't be tolerated now
Plane_Vanilla_3879 t1_iy9nw4n wrote
Serves them right. Republicans were not meant to be in power
hostile_rep t1_iy9sivr wrote
Every vote should be counted. Disenfranchising counties is travesty, no matter who's votes are being thrown out.
baldude69 t1_iy9twfs wrote
The voters should be angry as hell that their elected officials are nullifying their votes by not certifying
HeyImGilly t1_iyalimq wrote
Right. The voters’ gripe is towards the people not certifying the results for unjustified reasons. Take it up with them. They’re elected officials after all.
johnnybiggs15 t1_iybhhf3 wrote
Luzerne county resident here. My county has a good record of fucking up elections. It's usually local elections this is new territory for us but not surprising. I can't blame the officials for not certifying.
irishhank t1_iycl343 wrote
Except it is not their job to decide whether the votes should be certified. If they have problems they are to refer to the DA. They can be charged criminally for not doing their procedural duty. The duty to canvass elections is not discretionary, and that state law doesn't offer the officials any reason not to certify other than if they have not received all the returns, and that is not the case.
Roz150 t1_iyclth5 wrote
Except there has been piles of election tampering and no one gets charged.
irishhank t1_iycy0m2 wrote
Where’s the proof? Keep claiming elections are rigged and promoting candidates that lie about them. Worked out great for you in the midterms. They fed you shit sandwiches and you happily ate them up. Congrats on being duped.
Roz150 t1_iyczwur wrote
Im referring to the the republicans tampering with elections. The constant recounts in arizona. The fake electors. The horrible threats to election workers. Those people all seem to do that stuff with impunity. Its infuriating something hasn’t been done. Given this history, Im struggling to believe any election official in Luzerne county will have any consequences.
guyandadog t1_iydg4j9 wrote
Lol notice the difference between when they thought you were a republican vs when you say youre not. The statement is the exact same, all that changed was your affiliation in their minds and suddenly nobody downvotes you 😂 politics are laughable
Anonymous_Otters t1_iy9w5us wrote
I have zero sympathy for voters who vote for people who are put there superficially to block the democratic process. Fuck em, let them lie in the bed they made.
LisicaUCarapama t1_iya12za wrote
But what about the voters who didn't vote for this nonsense. No matter where I live, I want my vote to count, regardless of whether I'm surrounded by antidemocratic neighbors.
Electrical-Wish-519 t1_iyaw3fq wrote
Time to stop fraternizing with those loons. I know they can be nice in a person to person sense, but anyone radicalized enough to believe the election was rigged has a lack of critical thinking skills and that probably goes further than politics
michaeltheg1 t1_iyb6jdn wrote
Stop fraternizing?
So, they should move?
Electrical-Wish-519 t1_iybm0jq wrote
Nah. If my neighbor was hanging flags that the election was stolen and just being a general degenerate, I would say hi and move on. You don’t need to break bread with people who are totally untethered from reality
michaeltheg1 t1_iydkxqc wrote
No one said they were hanging out with these people.
No-Setting9690 t1_iy9ja08 wrote
Such a mockery. Their claims are bullshit.
BeltfedOne t1_iy9le7g wrote
Petulant, delusional children.
RubberV t1_iy9n7f5 wrote
Churlish and insubordinate.
BeltfedOne t1_iy9nw2g wrote
Blake...is that you?
AgentDickSmash t1_iy9qa2n wrote
YOU WANNA GO TO WAR, LUZERNE?
orangesfwr t1_iybaek7 wrote
Luz-ERR-neee
excusemydust t1_iy9kcz6 wrote
I don’t see it in this article, but the Democrat in Luzerne county who abstained has since said his questions have been answered satisfactorily and he will vote to certify on Wednesday. https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/decision-2022/pennsylvania-luzerne-county-deadlocks-certifying-election-results/3436566/?amp=1
Edited to correct spelling of Luzerne.
AgentDickSmash t1_iy9qi22 wrote
My completely uneducated guess is he was afraid of political violence while the spotlight was on him.
A state rep candidate in Fayette county was beaten up at his home
Alternative-Flan2869 t1_iy9rzyq wrote
So typical these days.
Monte2903 t1_iyc7fmf wrote
These people need to carry guns and ask questions later. Someone came to my house to beat my ass (especially if I have reason to expect it) they're gonna have a bad fucking day and I'm gonna need to repaint my porch.
StupiderIdjit t1_iycl9rd wrote
Paint it rust colored first, and you won't need to repaint later.
dratseb t1_iycpi0q wrote
Whoever’s downvoting you must never have heard of castle doctrine
ElderlyKratos t1_iycwtoo wrote
Or doesn't want to kill somebody
dratseb t1_iycyoid wrote
You may not realize this but that’s a very pro-criminal, pro-home invader mindset.
ElderlyKratos t1_iycyxoh wrote
I'm not going to kill somebody, hands down. My life at stake, whatever. I don't have it in me to take a life.
dratseb t1_iyczwjo wrote
Being a conscientious objector is cool, it’s a free country and your choice.
From your comment history it’s likely you have an mmj card. Luckily for you, the federal government has already decided that you shouldn’t have the right to defend yourself! Which I disagree with, but that’s for a different sub.
I’m a mutt of minorities. I believe POC and women need to be able to defend themselves since the corrupt government refuses to do it for us. The maga crew literally tried to hang Mike Pence on gallows outside the capitol. If they’re willing to do that to one of their own they most certainly would do it to me.
ElderlyKratos t1_iyd3twp wrote
I get all this and respect that- but the original guy who was being down voted mentioned "needing to repaint his porch" - maybe the down votes were about his casual lack of respect for life instead of about him defending himself. 🤷
mjsisko t1_iydby48 wrote
If you come to my property to harm me or my family you have already told me that you don’t value your life at all. Why should I place any value on it? The OP on this is correct. You enter my property with the intent and a ability to harm me or my family I won’t hesitate to end your time stealing oxygen from the rest of us. They won’t hesitate to harm me or mine.
If this makes you uncomfortable that’s good. It should, but it should make you reevaluate how important your life and the lives of loved ones are to you. There is nothing on this earth I wouldn’t do to protect my children from harm up to and including trading my life for theirs. Anyone that soundly say the same needs to look inside for answers.
Alternative-Flan2869 t1_iy9rsgm wrote
Fine. Arrest them, fine them, put them in jail and ban them from anything related to the election process - forever.
MonkeyPanls t1_iyaij12 wrote
They are elected officials, so the only recourse is state impeachment, much like they're trying to do to ol' Larry K.
I'll say the same thing about these county election bums that others have said about the state impeaching Larry: The county voted the bum in, let them vote the bum out. Keep your Harrisburg shenanigans out of the inner workings of my city.
Alternative-Flan2869 t1_iyak02w wrote
So elected officials have immunity? They are allowed to break the law by obstruction? Only benedict donald gets away with that.
MonkeyPanls t1_iyalcec wrote
What do you mean "immunity"? A political trial (impeachment/conviction by the legislature) is the consequence.
IamChantus t1_iyap2tg wrote
What law are they breaking?
Hopeful_Scholar398 t1_iychjmc wrote
Obstructing an election?
IamChantus t1_iyczx8d wrote
Their actions may or may not be against the law. Have you checked the statutes to see if that fits or if it's even on the books?
Hopeful_Scholar398 t1_iyd2suh wrote
No, but if politicians stopping elections from proceeding isn't illegal then at that point, I feel, we would need to act outside of the law. Politicians cannot hold election results hostage.
IamChantus t1_iyd5doa wrote
I agree with you in the broad sense that while it might not be criminally illegal, it certainly should be.
Hopeful_Scholar398 t1_iydclyn wrote
Yeah whether criminal charges COULD be levied I honestly don't know. But obviously we can't allow partisan politicians to decide what elections they want to count.
IamChantus t1_iyeml60 wrote
Agreed.
Entire_Ad_306 t1_iy9v4d6 wrote
Republicans cry more than the babies they force woman and girls to have
Annahsbananas t1_iy9rnix wrote
Mmmmm snowflakes ❄️
MetaphysicalMayhem t1_iyarkj9 wrote
Knock off the juvenile, assclown election-related Trumpist bullshit. I’ve been voting in PA for many years. PA has some issues, but voters do usually get rid of ridiculous assholes of whatever party. There are examples. And anyway, wanna win an election? Get more voters to vote for you (r sorry ass). Stop pissing all over the integrity and fairness of PA’s democratic institutions. What Trumpists have been doing is disgusting and traitorous in my view. I hope they knock it off.
axeville t1_iy9z9v5 wrote
Winner of Fox News beauty contest (pending audit of results); loser of general election.
But hey as long as you are 'pure' to the base your million dollar talk show slot is secure.
dominantspecies t1_iy9ur4f wrote
Two counties with insurrections in elected positions.
HeyZuesHChrist t1_iyalz6f wrote
Let me guess, Republicans lost?
How close am I?
gratefulkittiesilove t1_iybbpqb wrote
They get sued and Then certify. It’s just noise and waste of public tax dollars
RedStar9117 t1_iyampu9 wrote
Amazing they never believe there is fraud when Republicans win
MRG_1977 t1_iybqe8s wrote
No surprise. The head of Berks County GOP Chairman, Clay Breece, is an imbecile and general embarrassment.
You can listen weekly to his radio show (The Watchmen) on an obscure AM station out of Bucks County. You’ll quickly learn what I’m talking about.
https://www.1180wfyl.com/programs.html
Basically he is a UHaul manager who has managed to offend and drive off anyone with any real money or clout in Berks who is a Republican and/or used to be affiliated with the County party.
Instead the group has devolved into a gathering of your drunk uncle at Thanksgiving who makes inappropriate comments while ranting and raving.
MRG_1977 t1_iybr80a wrote
Just go the Berks County Republican Committee Twitter feed to see what I mean.
Jr High school antics.
susinpgh t1_iy9rpre wrote
It's not going to affect Fetterman or Shapiro, but will it affect any of the local elections?
Disgruntled_Viking t1_iya57ht wrote
Keep Pennsylvania stupid
eMPereb t1_iyaanv7 wrote
Imbeciles only do what the orange haired Imbecile says…
WinterWontStopComing t1_iya09y0 wrote
So does that make us the Arizona of the northeast then?
TrafficOnTheTwos t1_iya29ld wrote
Scumbags
kennethnoisewater99 t1_iybxr5b wrote
The snowflakes need their first place trophy or they coup. The new GOP, no adults present.
Stonecutter_12-83 t1_iyc9h6b wrote
You spelled refused wrong
randomnighmare t1_iyahn7o wrote
Two? I thought it was only one. Man, these idiots are really tanking PA.
Mmarischka t1_iybkcq9 wrote
How many millions of tax dollars have and are being WASTED with these apparently endless challenges to legitimate elections? The court costs and burning up court calendars? The civil servants who are not performing the duties they are hired for, but the weeks of hand counting votes, examining voting machinery that is perfectly functional. The Republican party has been flying the “fiscal conservancy” banner for decades. The hypocrisy is staggering.
CQU617 t1_iyc9vq8 wrote
This is such nonsense.
bett7yboop t1_iycr139 wrote
republican scum
drunkmonkey176 t1_iycvoxc wrote
The infestation of domestic terrorist trash needs taken out.
FairyFlossPanda t1_iycyg7o wrote
This is fucking embarsssing
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Themayorofawesome t1_iybcloe wrote
I really hate living in this state anymore, Moving south is looking better and better every day
theavengedCguy t1_iyebqju wrote
It only gets worse the further south you go though? lol
ktp806 t1_iycd6pr wrote
I think we forgot the gore versus bush fiasco and which the Supreme Court decided the election. So this is already been decided I think in the court of law and I don’t think that it will be but the county has the last say
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theavengedCguy t1_iyeb3c4 wrote
As I was clicking on this, my immediate thoughts were, "please don't let it be Luzerne, please don't let it be Luzerne" and sure enough, my home county lets me down yet again.
sx70forlifexx t1_iyah51u wrote
We are an incredibly stupid commonwealth
pocketbookashtray t1_iyac6c8 wrote
And yet there are still those extremists that claim there were zero (ZERO!) irregularities in the 2016 election.
Electr_O_Purist t1_iy9ir1r wrote
Doesn’t matter. They can throw their tantrum. Fetterman is still their senator. Shapiro is still their governor.