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psychcaptain t1_ivrj4k3 wrote

At press time, Fetterman suggested that perhaps he could accept the concession in person if he were ever in New Jersey.

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friskimykitty t1_ivq7o8n wrote

That’s hilarious! Has Oz actually conceded yet?

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happyjazzycook t1_ivqth79 wrote

Actually, Oz gave a gracious concession speech last night. Similar to the concession speeches that politicians (generally speaking) used to do before it was considered okay to whine about fraud and lay blame on everyone else.

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--Cr1imsoN-- t1_ivr53r0 wrote

I’m not gonna lie, it was actually refreshing to see and while Oz can still get fucked, I have a modicum of more respect to him for conceding like a civilized human being.

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NotNowDamo t1_ivspbjc wrote

Shame that doing the right thing is now considered special.

Fuck these guys.

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VaggPounder t1_ivtgp51 wrote

I still hate the GQP and MAGA with all my heart but at least it's a sign that things are moving back towards normalcy with the right wing creeps --- let's hope they nix the idea of Little Adolf DeSantis winning the 2024 nomination

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dojijosu t1_ivt5a2o wrote

This is where we are? When a Republican admits they lost an election they lost they get points?

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Nyurena t1_ivtclh6 wrote

And they were the ones worried about participation trophies being given to kids. Always heavy projection...

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dojijosu t1_ivthavo wrote

With the GOP every accusation is a confession. Whenever they complain about witch hunts, it makes me strongly suspect them of black magic.

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drxdrg08 t1_ivtmcbh wrote

> I have a modicum of more respect to him for conceding like a civilized human being.

Now that the election is over can we admit that Oz is a well educated, polished, highly accomplished professor at Columbia and head of cardiac surgery at a major hospital in Manhattan?

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seemyselfouts t1_ivvj5s9 wrote

No.

Sorry Lisa Asplundh Oz.

Should have stayed out of PA.

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DoctorSteve t1_ivrftfb wrote

He kills dogs with experiments with no concern for their well being.

He kills humans with misleading pills, scams, and medical advice with no concern for their well being.

He is friends with the dictator of a country who has waged wars on all of its borders.

But sure, he conceded a race he lost. I guess he is a good person after all.

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--Cr1imsoN-- t1_ivrg48v wrote

That’s a massive jump… I never said he was a good person. I said I had a modicum of respect for him conceding instead of throwing a fit over some crap over “rigged elections”. A modicum. As in a tiny little slither of respect for just that action. Like I said, Oz can still get fucked.

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frugal_masturbater t1_ivrh38d wrote

FWIW your statement makes good sense. He could instead have fanned the flames of his base with accusations, making things worse than they already are.

He may be a person I can't see eye-to-eye with but there's some recognition warranted.

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DoctorSteve t1_ivripg2 wrote

For CONCEDING A RACE HE LOST?!

You understand this is continually lowering the bar you set for Republicans? When the bar for a Republican is "losing", and when one loses you go "You know what, I respect that he did not storm Harrisburg with a militia", that is a wake up call for you.

Hold Republicans to a higher standard. Or you are only further pushing the idea of what a "Moderate" Republican is.

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frugal_masturbater t1_ivrjv3z wrote

I am not calling him moderate. I'm going simply by the one thing that's being talked about, that he conceded without drama.

He is an extremist and a snake oil salesman. So more the better that he bowed out with some humility. That doesn't mean I consider him moderate at all.

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DoctorSteve t1_ivrtk7l wrote

You're giving him credit for conceding. That is embarrassing.

It should NOT be refreshing to see someone concede. You need to keep your standards high. What you did here is dangerous talk. I don't care if you don't like hear it - it's the truth.

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poopfeast t1_ivrwhq1 wrote

It shouldn’t be, but it is.

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DoctorSteve t1_ivryz60 wrote

It might be refreshing to see a Republican concede instead of start an insurrection, but you have to be vigilant and keep your standards high enough that a Republican can concede and you don't respect them for it.

This is a personal problem, not a societal problem. We need to expect better of a Republican that we don't praise them when they don't start an insurrection.

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frugal_masturbater t1_ivs0f94 wrote

I really don't care if you don't like to hear it -- we aren't talking about insurrection. We're talking about a single gesture. I'm sorry you can't compartmentalize things. Have a good one.

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DoctorSteve t1_ivs2cbl wrote

I know we aren't talking about an insurrection, because he conceded. And you wrote "it's refreshing that he conceded". What's the alternative? What's the precedent to not conceding?

This is the comparison YOU made. I am telling you why your thinking is dangerous. You don't have to like it but it's true.

I don't know what you told me "I really don't care if you don't like to hear it" for. I don't want an insurrection. But I don't praise people when they don't begin an insurrection. You do.

Get some standards for Republicans.

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frugal_masturbater t1_ivs33dz wrote

The alternative has been witnessed over and over since 2020, that can't be news to you.

ALL that was said is that "hey, good thing this chuckle-head didn't join that part of the crazy train." Literally, that's all.

None of the people in this sub-thread want an insurrection. None. It is a small nod to a gesture that asshole Oz could easily have waved off and yelled "fake fake fake."

A small nod to a small gesture. I can't explain it any better.

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Torbelson t1_ivrnsnf wrote

Take a pill dude. Better yet smoke a j. I want socialism just as much as you. The more government the better. Free everything for everyone takes time. J it up and wait for the money to roll in.

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DoctorSteve t1_ivrtncc wrote

None of that has anything to do with my point.

I am discussing people lowering the bar for Republicans.

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Torbelson t1_ivsvjnk wrote

It actually does. See as Democrat I am lowering the bar as a human so that my government can give me free stuff. That makes me a complete piece of shit. I am only voting Democrat for Socialism so that I and democrats just like me never have to work a day in our lives ever again. Gimme Gimme baby!

Talk about lowering the bar.

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DoctorSteve t1_ivtxbgh wrote

I am surprised you can still post on here after cheering for John Fetterman's death.

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DoctorSteve t1_ivrihvn wrote

I would not give him any respect. He is someone who publicly denies the Armenian Genocide. He's not getting respect for losing a Senate campaign where he got billions of dollars invested into him.

Don't give these people an inch. This isn't a game. He is hate personified.

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nashuanuke t1_ivr0rs0 wrote

I'll give Oz credit, in a saner world, he'd make a normal republican.

Which isn't saying much, for the GOP or Oz.

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DoctorSteve t1_ivrfwt1 wrote

Dr. Oz was the more extreme of the choice between him and McCormick. And McCormick was an extreme candidate.

Don't let last minute shifting to center fool you on Oz.

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SwissyVictory t1_ivs3miu wrote

His republican opponents literally called him a "republican in name only" because he was so moderate.

Come on man, don't fall for propaganda. There's alot to not like about Oz, but he wasn't extreme.

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DoctorSteve t1_ivs7kx1 wrote

You understand Oz was Trump's pick, right?

Republicans in a primary attack the other candidates for not being Republican enough. This isn't news. Fetterman got attacks from Lamb for not being enough of a Democrat. Does that mean it's true?

For example, this is an Oz ad from the primaries

This is another one. You've got a Trump comparison, woke media reference, anti-Fauci comment, anti-trans comments, and using the word "fight" which itself is fine, but after the prior comments and references it feels more like a call to violence.

Here's another one, emotional music with insane language

Here's an insane video of his where he seems to think elected officials shouldn't get between you and your doctor on a medical decision, in start contrast to his views on abortion.

I'm having difficulty finding the right ad, but here's Jimmy Kimmel discussing the ad. And also very clearly illustrating the Oz/Trump connection. There's plenty of longer Oz material online. His primary target until the primary ended was Fauci. He had a 15 second ad where all he did was attack Fauci.

Speaking of calling people RINOS, here's Dr. Oz calling McCormick a RINO. With plenty of Trump added in.

Here's another anti-McCormick ad that is awesome. It was clearly not done by Oz's team. Most of his material is recorded in the wrong direction on his phone.

Here's [an ad the uses the term 'swamp'].(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqeBi3WbG8k)

Here's an insane ad. Dr. Oz's team is really, really bad. If it wasn't for the national influence he'd probably have done nothing. That Wegners ad was the best idea he had.

I can't find the Fauci ad, but it was Dr. Oz in a 15 second ad saying he's going to Fire Fauci.

Anyway - as you can see, he's not moderate. I mean, have you forgotten the Citizens for Sanity ads that ran on his behalf every single second of the Baseball playoffs?

I do not know how short your memory is. But Dr. Oz conceding does not make him a moderate. He is in lock step with someone who led an insurrection against the United States. This is absolutely ridiculous. I do not know how you got to believe this, but this is ridiculous and dangerous thinking. Dr. Oz was the more extreme candidate in the primary, and he is certainly STILL extreme. Just because people pivot towards the center doesn't erase any of this. You need to educate yourself. You are giving credit and respect to an extremely dangerous person. THIS is why the election was so important.

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SwissyVictory t1_ivsakte wrote

So your argument is someone who is extreme likes him so he also must be extreme?

Then you posted a bunch of litteral propaganda to show how you're not being fooled by propaganda?

Not to mention alot of what you said arnt extreme views, they are just different than your own.

32% of democrats at atleast one point thought Fauci should resign. How can something be a crazy far right idea when 1/3rd of democrats believe it?

Some of them like the calling not true like the video you posted where you claimed Oz called McCormick a rhino, but it dosent say that or anything similar.

Come on, you're better than this.

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NotNowDamo t1_ivspvn9 wrote

You have fucking short term memory problems, dude.

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DoctorSteve t1_ivsbsh0 wrote

The video is titled "David McCormick: RINO" and is uploaded by Oz's Youtube.

I am aware you believe in alternative facts, but can you explain why you believe this video - titled "David McCormick: RINO" and uploaded by Oz's Youtube - does not say Dave McCormick is a RINO?

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SwissyVictory t1_ivscktr wrote

You're right, the ad has nothing to do with it, but the title they gave it on YouTube does say that.

You also ignored everything else I said, focused on the one point you thought you could win, and then attacked my character.

For the record I voted strait Democrat in this election, including for Fetterman. I dont believe in alternative facts lol.

I do believe that the majority of people calling Oz extreme are the same people who say that every republican is extreme. Those people themselves tend to be the ones that are extreme. They are falling for the propaganda designed to divide us, and it's hurting our country.

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DoctorSteve t1_ivsehu1 wrote

I did not ignore it, I chose to focus on one ridiculous statement from you at a time. Now that we've established that the video from Dr. Oz that says "David McCormick: RINO" is real, we can move on.

I don't care how you voted. You are espousing dangerous rhetoric online and it needs to be addressed.

I showed you videos of the following things.

  1. Oz making very strong statements on the second amendment, on guns, and on using guns to defend against crime - and against the government.
  2. Oz attacking trans people. Reprehensible.
  3. Oz referring to the media as "the woke media". A direct extreme right talking point.
  4. Fauci attacks are a dogwhistle. You are not going to defend Fauci attacks to my face right now. Oz attacked Fauci for months, and Fauci is NOT his opponent in this race. He repeatedly challenged Fauci to debates - sound familiar? Seems like Oz really wanted to pivot to television.
  5. An ad directed strongly at Republican Moms with one Far Right Republican fear tactic after another. Literally says "there's big threats out there". Fear of outsiders, fear of something foreign, fear of the unknown - as hindbrain pandering comments as you can get.
  6. Part of his early campaign when it was more relevant, Oz repeatedly went after the pandemic, against science, against lockdowns, against the vaccine, and for conspiracy theories surrounding Covid. This is an EXTREME position. This isn't moderate. The fact he wanted to fire Fauci should speak volumes. A random poll isn't evidence of anything. And looking at the poll itself, it's by The Hill and HarrisX. HarrisX is NOT The Harris Poll. There isn't much of any evidence over what it is. They have a zero engagement Twitter page.. Looking at the author's other articles, they're all clickbait poll garbage. This isn't evidence. Fauci attacks are NOT mainstream, accepted, moderate positions. Stop spreading lies.
  7. Oz was very strongly (just for the election) anti-abortion. If we've learned anything from last night, America is not anti-abortion. This is an extreme stance.
  8. This last ad goes through a number of hits in a row. All of them are extreme, far right, direct Donald Trump issues. "Big Tech is silencing conservative voices" screams out as an extreme position. More focus on the border - something that is beyond obviously an extreme far right position. The focus of the ad is that Joe Biden is evil. Joe Biden won the election. That clearly makes this position an extreme on.
  9. Oz's Donald Trump endorsement video. Which is more RINO-ing about McCormick. You wrote "So your argument is someone who is extreme likes him so he also must be extreme?" The answer is yes. One extreme political figure endorsing the other directly states that the other must also be extreme. Especially when the endorsement is being made because they share the same views. This ad has Donald Trump say "He believes in the MAGA movement 100%". I don't know how you can spin your way out of that. I know you'll try.

Dr. Oz very, very, very evidently was the extreme candidate in the Republican primary. You need to remember this. And you need to stop giving a candidate respect because they did not begin an insurrection.

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NotNowDamo t1_ivsq4j8 wrote

Dude, I am pretty sure this is Dr. Oz's alt account.

Better to stop giving this troll oxygen. Oz went extreme during the primary and that guy knows it. The only reasonable explanation is he is trying g to rewrite history to show Oz in a good light so his doctor friends let him come back and do more surgery--the only thing the man can seem to do without lying.

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NotNowDamo t1_ivspnm9 wrote

No, it wasn't because he was a moderate. It was because he was a Democrat up until the moment he decided to run.

He literally cherry picked a state, race, and party that he thought he could win. Next time, it may be as a Democrat in Maine for governor. He has no moral compassion and was literally a RINO.

Also, he was the one that got Trumps endorsement because he was denying the results of 2020.

Don't tell me he was a moderate-- he literally said whatever it took to win the primary, then went in the other direction to try and win the general.

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TacoNomad t1_ivt7jun wrote

Trump did the same. He followed the path paved by trump, swapping to the party that would vote for him.

Also, during the debate, he said he would support whatever the GOP put out, and criticized Fetterman for opposing ideas from other dems to reinforce that idea.

Oz was merely a pawn in the GOP game, and he was all for it.

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NotNowDamo t1_ivtk4bv wrote

I agree. They followed the same playbook, including calling traditional conservatives RINOs.

It was disgusting.

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SwissyVictory t1_ivtolz1 wrote

Great, we've got the guy who's evidence is a bunch of propaganda, and now you who's evidence is a bunch of conspiracy theories.

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NotNowDamo t1_ivtprb0 wrote

What conspiracy theory?

It literally is what happened.

But you Trumpists will never admit that you are wrong.

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SwissyVictory t1_ivtq29b wrote

I never voted for Trump, and I didn't vote for Oz. Try again.

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NotNowDamo t1_ivtrkuo wrote

First, a conspiracy involves more than one person. I never accused Oz of being part of a conspiracy, I only documented what we know he did do.

Second:

>I never voted for Trump, and I didn't vote for Oz. Try again.

But you don't mind defending Oz:

Oz said he had discussed the 2020 election with Trump and that “we cannot move on.” McCormick said it was a “tragedy” that most Republican voters in Pennsylvania didn’t believe in the integrity of the election

From: https://www.politico.com/news/2022/04/25/dr-oz-pennsylvania-debate-trump-00027712

This article also details McCormicks arguments for why he called Oz a RINO, which seems to fit my narrative more than yours.

I never claimed you voted for either, but you obviously are willing to lie about Oz lying about his support.

Good bye.

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SwissyVictory t1_ivtv7du wrote

Its a baseless accusation. It's not any better than any of the baseless lies the far right is putting out.

The you used more propaganda from Dave McCormick of all places to back yourself up.

The fact that you instantly assumed I was "the enemy" and went on the offensive as soon as I said anything not extreme is evidence of how divided our country is and how extremism is tearing it apart.

Im not a "Trumpist", defending Oz, or spreading lies by saying that he's a moderate. It's the truth and his policies back that up. If you think his views are extreme its probally beacuse your views are extreme in the other direction. Mastriano was an extremist, Oz wasn't.

You're falling for all the propaganda and lies. Believe it or not, it's on both sides of the isle.

The world is alot better when we all get along.

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NotNowDamo t1_ivtwjlv wrote

Hey, Mr. "I NEVER VOTED FOR OZ OR TRUMP BUT I LIE ON THEIR BEHALF ON THE INTERNET."

McCormick didn't say those things about the 2020 election, he said he accepts the results, it was Oz, documented in a Politico article. Just to make it clear there is NO moderation when talking about election results. Either you believe in them or you don't.

Now it is something I should have done from the start and deny you that sweet, sweet dopamine rush by no longer responding to your election and fact denying posts.

Blocked for being a lying, obvious Trump troll.

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DoctorSteve t1_ivtxp6x wrote

So you're still active in this thread you're just dodging me?

Makes sense. You've got nothing. Oz is not a moderate and the fact you are continuing to push this idea shows you have an agenda.

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StarWars_and_SNL t1_ivrx6mg wrote

I miss the old days of class, or class for the cameras at least.

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scotticusphd t1_ivrzrrk wrote

Listen to Rachel Maddow's podcast on Spiro Agnew... I don't know that those old days we remember we're ever actually a thing.

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gslavik t1_ivslf1m wrote

Weren't elections right after Washington close to a civil war?

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One_Awareness6631 t1_ivtkw9u wrote

I bet that made trumpy mad. LOL -- to be a ketchup stain on the wall. He called Maggie Habermann ranting and blaming Melania for election outcomes yesterday! bhahahahahahahaha

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PrincessGwyn t1_ivtojnd wrote

Yeah that’s just to protect his brand. You know he’s pissed

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mjsau t1_ivqy1pa wrote

Fetterman to Oz: "I don't know if you are aware, but I had a stroke in May, so could you please repeat that just one more time."

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robval13 t1_ivt45xg wrote

I love the people on here getting so fired up. It’s the onion, obviously satire. Chill out.

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Alfa505 t1_ivt4zbr wrote

Hubris, nice start.

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kzw5051 t1_ivu95sn wrote

It’s an Onion article, fucktard

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badatmetroid t1_ivth815 wrote

If that joke was too much for you then you should just get off the internet right now. I promise it only gets worse.

Hint: look at the domain.

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sighlonglove t1_ivr7frf wrote

If he said that it wouldn't surprise me. Rich white liberal supremacist. More of likes of Fetterman and the suffering will only get worse. The communities that he lives far from will be the ones that shoulder the reckless policies designed to further the social divide. As long as his neighborhood is safe we are doomed.

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StarWars_and_SNL t1_ivrxgyq wrote

Cannabis bad grrrrr where red hat

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sighlonglove t1_ivsqe8d wrote

Is there gun violence in your neighborhood? Or are the walls the democrats built in the 60s still up. Open your eyes man.

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StarWars_and_SNL t1_ivt8t5q wrote

Look up how the politics of the parties shifted after the southern strategy before you go throwing around outdated arguments about parties.

I could say Republicans didn’t care about abortion in the 60s. Or that Democrats were fine with guns in the 50s. Times change and policies change.

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Phillysean23 t1_ivtdusn wrote

You say this and down the road, you'll say that democrats weren't forcing lockdown policies on the citizens or that the parties switched. Pathetic

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StarWars_and_SNL t1_ivtfk1n wrote

You don’t understand politics, it’s ok.

I’ll never say that the dems weren’t COVID cautious. But in 30 years if they’re suddenly anti vax, they’re sure as hell not the same party anymore.

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[deleted] t1_ivtfwov wrote

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StarWars_and_SNL t1_ivtjf1v wrote

Both parties are far too gone from that time to compare today vs 200 years ago. That’s not realistic. Things evolve.

Pedo is a weird insult, but ok. Maybe Josh Shapiro will come get me since he is so tough on them. :)

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Phillysean23 t1_ivu01gz wrote

Mods where ? Lol

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sighlonglove t1_ivu0nys wrote

This dude lives in some cozy little town where the police are still fully staffed, the schools have books and the hardest decision is to go to Starbucks or Dunkin Donuts.

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Pennsylvania-ModTeam t1_ivtxngu wrote

Your comment seems to be inciting or encouraging uncivil discourse. Please refrain from name-calling, derogatory epithets, and personal attacks. Do not be intentionally obnoxious and don't intentionally start fights.

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bk1285 t1_ivsawbw wrote

What policies are you talking about

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un_acceptable t1_ivtc2vs wrote

Well, Fetterman must live closer to PA communities than Oz does, considering Oz lives in NJ….

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kzw5051 t1_ivu8tvg wrote

Did you not look at the source? This is an Onion article lol

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ChrissyLove13 t1_ivrto5x wrote

Well said

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kzw5051 t1_ivu90e0 wrote

Hey look another idiot that didn’t bother looking at the source and didn’t see this is clearly satire

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