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FyrestarOmega t1_ivt555o wrote

Just imagine what everyone in that room had convinced themselves what God, America, Pennsylvania, and Mastriano are. phew. I wonder for how many of them the delusion finally faded Tuesday night.

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cpr4life8 OP t1_ivt5iol wrote

None.

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FyrestarOmega t1_ivtedsq wrote

Maybe. But even in that article, the lady who calls herself "that Trump bitch" was dumped by her boyfriend in the face of Mastriano's clear loss. The Oz/Mastriano signs in my area came down overnight, as opposed to Trump/Pence signs that persisted for months. 2020 election deniers were repudiated across the board (pending Arizona results notwithstanding). I think (hope) the mass delusion that exploded around the 2020 election is starting to fade. It's not over or gone, but it's losing followers, not gaining them. If I don't have a ton of hope yet, at least I have relief.

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cpr4life8 OP t1_ivtg9js wrote

I believe something like 175 election deniers actually won their races.

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FyrestarOmega t1_ivtj1op wrote

Fair. I'm generalizing. I was thinking of the specific election deniers that were boosted by democrats in the primaries, being viewed as easier to defeat in the general in competitive races. In that (admittedly small sampling), all have lost (or in Kari Lake's case, may lose but definitely did not decisively win)

For election deniers in general (this tracks only attorney generals, governors, and senators, we see the following:

Out of 12 election deniers running for attorney general, 6 lost, 2 remain too close to call. None of these candidates were incumbents

Out of 22 election denying governor candidates, 7 won re-election, of which 6 were incumbents. 3 remain too close to call, including incumbent Mike Dunleavy in Alaska. None of the losers or the other two uncalled races are incumbents.

Out of 19 election denying senate candidates, 10 won re-election, of which 5 were incumbents. 3 races are too close to call, none of whom are incumbent. None of the losers are incumbents.

So in general, being the republican or incumbent in a traditionally republican race is a far more winning factor than their denial of the election. Election denial was not a winning strategy in this election.

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cpr4life8 OP t1_ivtjv91 wrote

I don't disagree with you and I apologize for the brevity in my response. I was in the middle of something and typed out a quick response and went back to what I was doing and then thought, "Damn I probably should have held off on responding until I was available to give a full response" 😅

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FyrestarOmega t1_ivtltu7 wrote

All good, it encouraged me to look further, learn more, and (I hope) bring valuable information to the conversation, and you just did it again (but please stop now, I gotta actually work lol)

I'm not loving what I learned about attorney general results, but let's look even more closely at new candidates

For governors, 1-3 out of 15 new candidates won (7-20%). For senators, out of 14 new senate candidates, 5-8 won (36-57%). Attorney generals is 4-6 out of 12 (33-50%). *my opinion* is that each of those win percentages will stay under 50%.

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cpr4life8 OP t1_ivtru3t wrote

Haha sorry, my intention was not to assign you homework!

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