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shillyshally t1_iwobrzt wrote

If people haven't learned this in this election, they never will. We blame politicians for so much but we elected them and people who did not vote elected them as well by sitting on the sidelines.

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dmriggs t1_iwog6z1 wrote

There is something called gerrymandering and voter suppression just so you know

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Limp-Adhesiveness453 t1_iwphrkn wrote

Yep, it's 20x times harder to register to vote in PA now than it was when I left the state 14 years ago. I moved back 3 weeks before the cutoff to register, and couldn't believe how much stuff I had to have, including bills at my address, which I still haven't gotten yet, since they lag usage by a month. I had the turn all my bank/credit accounts off of paperless in the hopes they got here.in time, but they didn't, so I couldn't register. They require two Bills, dod not accept my change off address from usps or bank statement. My guess is, this is will also make it much harder for young people to register especially if they move from out of state

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cgamgee t1_iwpkj7s wrote

Huh that's really annoying. I'm 20 so my first election was 2020 and luckily registering for the first time wasn't nearly as complicated if my memory is correct.

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Tyrone-Rugen t1_iwpycr8 wrote

Were you doing it while getting a drivers license? That sounds like the list of requirements for the new "Real ID"

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Limp-Adhesiveness453 t1_iwqsvi7 wrote

Possibly, but when you're moving from out of state, it forced me down that path on the website

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a-german-muffin t1_iwq0zi0 wrote

Those are requirements to get a driver's license, not to register to vote. It's easier to fill out the voter registration form if you have a DL/ID, but you don't need one.

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Limp-Adhesiveness453 t1_iwqsqj8 wrote

Right, but that one you needed to print out and fax a form or something

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a-german-muffin t1_iwqt5ls wrote

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Limp-Adhesiveness453 t1_iwr5dpf wrote

Not for moving from out state, unless the website is so poorly designed. I tried multiple ways and tomes, and without a PA driver license, there's only one way. I didn't have enough time to get a DL with work and moving before the deadline.

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a-german-muffin t1_iwr6avf wrote

Only complicating factor I can see is that you were previously registered, moved out of state, then came back. You can literally be homeless without any ID and register to vote.

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Limp-Adhesiveness453 t1_iwridwe wrote

I hit like 10 complications trying to register. I've been registered in 3 states, none were nearly as complicated/impossible/poorly explained

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Canopenerdude t1_iwpxfl3 wrote

That's really strange. When my wife registered it was literally just 'go online, fill out form about who you are, print it, sign it, drop it off'. And that was I think 4 years ago?

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dmriggs t1_iwr3xh0 wrote

Exactly. There is so many underhanded things going on, and for the most part voters are turning out in droves. some states make it nearly impossible to register for some people.

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KFCConspiracy t1_iwpzb6l wrote

Sure there is, but the courts have been reducing the amount of gerrymandering in Pennsylvania, which is why these races are so competitive.

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JacoDaDon t1_iwr7alz wrote

These races are so competitive because entire democrat households are now voting regardless of if the people living in the house care or not. Not like anyone’s checking the signatures anyway. Got some voting age kids still living at home who don’t care about politics? In the past these kids wouldn’t vote at all. Now mom fills out their ballots and sends them all in. Exactly the way the chick on The View admitted to doing in NY. Voted & signed for her son who was out of state.

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underscore5000 t1_iwr8wuo wrote

Certainly love to see sources on this outside of "I saw the chick on the view say something once."

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