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p_britt35 t1_iykw4s0 wrote

So an already over-worked and pissed-off police department is now gonna worry about kids? Nah.....more like if a juvy commits a crime after hours they could tack this on.

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underwear11 t1_iyl97g1 wrote

More like if someone that looks like they might be a juvy is out after 10pm they have probable cause to harass them.

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SamuelDoctor t1_iym6zd7 wrote

I'm curious to see whether and to what extent such a measure might impact violent crime. If this succeeds, Tucker Carlson will talk about it until he is in the dirt.

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Hib3rnian t1_iymd59q wrote

It won't. But it looks good on paper and makes city council appear as if they're "doing something".

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KingGranticus t1_iyn854u wrote

What it'll actually do is make it look like crime is up since they'll be detaining more people for this and then slapping charges on top of that when without a permanent curfew these kids never would have been stopped in the first place

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SamuelDoctor t1_iynb1j1 wrote

If violent crime goes down, that is the only stat which will matter.

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KingGranticus t1_iynbbmw wrote

No I'm saying it won't even do that. It'll inflate those numbers too. And that's what ghouls like Tucker Carlson want because that will fuel calls to bloat our police budget even more, so they arrest more people, so crime stats are up, so they get more funding, and you get the idea.

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SamuelDoctor t1_iyngq04 wrote

That's a distinct possibility, but you have to wonder, if the outcome is so obvious, why would the city council approve such a measure? Personally I think that there's still a lot to be learned about what kind of policing is actually effective these days. I understand that the research doesn't necessarily insist that any one approach has been proven best. Broken windows, community policing, and everything in-between have their advocates among serious criminologists.

It may well be the case that for this specific moment in the history of urban America, these kinds of curfews give police an opportunity to keep order. Obviously that may result in civil friction, especially where regular people get swept up in the drag net, but I've heard serious people start to wonder what ought to be done if these kinds of tactics won't work.

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nalgene_wilder t1_iym9oir wrote

>More like if someone that looks like they might be a juvy minority is out after 10pm they have probable cause to harass them. Ftfy

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tracksuitaficionado t1_iyman4k wrote

Oh no they might have to put their phones down and get out of their cars???? The horror

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cjd5286 t1_iynatim wrote

Buddy I have a bridge to sell you if you think the PPD has been working hard.

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