AdlerFMT t1_j1wvrjo wrote
Reply to comment by pitchforksNbonfires in New Pennsylvania laws taking effect in 2023. Here’s a look at some of the laws that will go into effect in the new year. by oldschoolskater
While I dont particularly like self driving/ level x autonomy/ electric/ whatever you want to call it and the nannies that come alone with it, I could play the devils advocate. Because it depends on how you look at the data. While only my unprofessional opinion, please consider the following...
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If you look at it this way, 392 crashes and 6 fatalities is a fairly small number when the number of roadway deaths is in the tens of thousands.
"The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration today released its early estimates of traffic fatalities for the first half of 2022. An estimated 20,175 people died in motor vehicle traffic crashes, an increase of about 0.5%..."
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I also managed to locate a PDF from nhtsa showing a large number of ADS cars were rear ended. Take that information as you will but it would be hard to squarely put the blame on ADS cars on that.
I absolutely think these things should move more slowly and it looks like so does nhtsa, but Id think just straight up saying ADAS cars are dangerous isn't really the case.
pitchforksNbonfires t1_j1xsz52 wrote
ADAS vehicles are here to stay, although I’ve read accounts of drivers being surprised/alarmed at how the vehicles react at certain times.
Driverless vehicles are downright scary.
While there are bad drivers on the road, the selling point of this technology is that it is less apt to be fallible in certain circumstances than a human being.
Onboard computers can and do malfunction. They can be hacked. They are fallible, no less than a human driver. Sensors and a computer can’t take the place of eyes, ears and (hopefully) an informed, experienced driver.
The NHTSA article doesn’t mention how ADAS/ADS vehicles factor into the data, though there are currently several NHTSA investigations into some Tesla models and their Autopilot software. There have been accidents, injuries and fatalities.
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https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/tesla-driver-watched-horror-another-125137176.html
This one burst into flames after hitting a barrier.
”He got out and spoke to the driver of the crashed Tesla, who was not injured in the incident. The driver told Kaplan he had his 2018 Model X in Autopilot but "it suddenly veered hard to the left and stopped against the wall."
As far as the prevalence of ADS vehicles being rear-ended, some could be due to sudden and unexpected braking, as happened on Thanksgiving in San Francisco on the Bay Bridge:
”The report states that the Tesla Model S was traveling at about 55 mph and shifted into the far left-hand lane, but then braked abruptly, slowing the car to about 20 mph. That led to a chain reaction that ultimately involved eight vehicles to crash, all of which had been traveling at typical highway speeds.”
”Tesla’s driver-assist technologies, Autopilot and “full self-driving” are already being investigated by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration following reports of unexpected braking that occurs “without warning, at random, and often repeatedly in a single drive.”
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