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defusted t1_izks385 wrote

I feel like it needs more flames for the background and an eagle flying over a hoagie or a taste cake.

Edit: ok so here we go. Flames all around, an eagle carrying a steel I beam flying over a cheese steak wearing an Amish hat, I think this covers the whole bad ass state.

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Toodyfish t1_izl9v39 wrote

I like the flames idea. Maybe in the foreground have a philly cheese steak and a primanti's sandwich swordfighting or something

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snuffy_tentpeg t1_izlaic4 wrote

TastyKake pies were the staple of my morning commute. Pick up a coffee and pie at Wa Wa and head to work. Not all that many years ago, the pies were packaged by themselves in their cartons. For some reason, they were redesigned and packaged in a small aluminum tin in the carton. Formerly, the top and bottom crust of the pies were bonded so that you could pick them up and eat them while in the car. Now the top and bottom crusts are separate pieces of pastry that, when bitten fall to pieces and get the filling all over your shirt.

Every once in a while, I'll forget and the whole scenario plays out again.

A pox on them for screwing up an already well designed product.

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defusted t1_izlb9e3 wrote

I didn't know they're separate now, I just thought they got shitty. In the car is literally the only place I ever eat them.

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mostlikelytrash t1_izolv6o wrote

Not. Enough. Potholes. Just put holes in the flag too. That’ll be cooler.

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Traveler1987 t1_izlmgdq wrote

Maybe an Eagle perched on a steel I-beam.

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defusted t1_izlp7xh wrote

Carrying

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Traveler1987 t1_iznnizw wrote

I’m downvoting you because I’m from Pittsburgh. …not because I dislike your snappy comment, lol.

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[deleted] OP t1_izkkpnd wrote

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mullenaxiv t1_izkof15 wrote

Marylands flag is pretty freaking awesome, not gonna lie!

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Griff82 t1_izko70i wrote

I read that as set a match to. 😂

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Redlar t1_izny6ox wrote

Yup, grew up there, family's from there, it's a distinct and striking flag

I've lived in PA, at this point, longer than my birth state so I feel alright critiquing the PA flag

Holy moly, it's soooo boring compared to MD's.

There that's my critique lol

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TipsyTurtlZ t1_izld49p wrote

The story behind Maryland’s state Flag is pretty interesting as well.

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kifn2 t1_izkiggv wrote

It looks like almost exactly like about half of the other US flags. At least it's not as bad as New Jersey's.

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12thNJ t1_izlb3b2 wrote

Hey!... I'm mean, your right, but, Hey! You can't talk shit about our flag. Only we can talk shit about our flag.

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DirtWizardDisciples t1_izkn4lg wrote

"Symbol centered on a blue field" is so overdone

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papi_chulo_LSD t1_izl9xmo wrote

What if it was just a keystone centered on a blue field. Itd be a A-S tier flag imo

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NCC_74656B t1_izlaez0 wrote

Agreeded. But I also like the Philly tricolor. So maybe a tricolor with the keystone superimposed on the front.

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TheTaraStark t1_izm7iub wrote

You've just described something that looks a lot like the Keystone Flag!

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aboutsider t1_iznr1lr wrote

I really like this flag!

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TheTaraStark t1_iznucu8 wrote

I’m glad it resonates! Our Kickstarter just hit its goal last night, so if you wanted some swag, it’ll be around until Dec 12th!

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pocketbookashtray t1_izpi128 wrote

Outstanding! Next governor candidate that runs on the new flag platform gets my vote.

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MrRojoRicin t1_izlj9ha wrote

Split the difference and you've got the state Army National Guard's 28th Infantry Division flag.

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NCC_74656B t1_izm2bxb wrote

>state Army National Guard's 28th Infantry Division flag

Take off the lettering and its actually pretty good.

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nttnypride t1_izklial wrote

It’s just like half the other states’ flags — state seal on a blue background. We need something distinctive. I like this one: keystoneflag.org

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GawkieBird t1_izktdad wrote

Dude, that's an awesome campaign. That flag looks great! The kickstarter is only 3 days from ending and it's close to its goal... I hope they make it.

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TheTaraStark t1_izmc7nd wrote

We did make it! If you want anything, you're always welcome to grab something during the final few days, too, of course 😊

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GawkieBird t1_izmnaxt wrote

Yeah I saw, that's terrific!! I already grabbed what I can afford atm and am crossing my fingers that you get enough backers to pull off the pride flag. Good luck with the rest of the campaign, and thank you for doing it!

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Allemaengel t1_izkyo13 wrote

I don't care for the green on it and I usually like green.

A simple gold keystone on a black background would certainly be interesting, lol.

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username-1787 t1_izl78tk wrote

States official colors are blue and gold (which is why the license plates have blue and gold/yellow stripes). Should be a gold keystone on a blue background

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TheTaraStark t1_izm89i7 wrote

Believe it or not, we actually don't have official colors! People see those colors prominently on the state flag, but that's circumstance, same with the license plate and a few state agency logos, and tourism wound up running with it. They still made it into this design, though!

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Allemaengel t1_izlcpu1 wrote

Well, I almost said that but people hate how boring and similar our state's current flag is to a bunch of other states.

Personally I like that idea.

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UnaffiliatedOpinion t1_izm7ttm wrote

A big part of that issue though is simply that the art in the center is way too complicated/detailed. Also there's no contrast between the black horses and the blue field. South Carolina and Alaska follow a similar "symbol on a blue field" formula but I'd rank them solidly above most of the rest as the symbols are relatively simple and easy to identify. Even Indiana's is better because the symbol is so much simpler, there's clear color contrast, etc.

I do quite like the Pennsylvania coat of arms on its own, it works well in printed designs. I just don't think it works well as a flag.

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OfficePicasso t1_izlyyfe wrote

That’s awesome. I think we need to keep nailing the keystone home as our symbol. It’s unique and apt

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IamSauerKraut t1_izkvknb wrote

Ugly, ugly flag. Looks like a 3rd grader came up with that. At least they stayed within the lines. Ugh lee.

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tdpdcpa t1_izl6rne wrote

Yeah, that’s my only issue with it.

Still like it better than the current flag though.

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the_hoagie t1_izlnunv wrote

a third grader did come up with it if you read the story in the link. they were inspired by a child's homework assignment.

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TheTaraStark t1_iznvhmz wrote

Even if this were true, what would be wrong with that? Alaska’s flag was designed by a teenager, and decades later it’s still one of the most beloved US state flags.

(For anyone who cares, the kid was barely born when I was putting the design together in 2017 - I received that homework photo from a friend and supporter about 2 months ago. That said, this is the funniest misreading of a situation I’ve seen in a while, and I appreciate you for that 😂)

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the_hoagie t1_izo2hm8 wrote

I didn't mean anything rude, I just misread it! It's a good design and I personally like it! Good job!

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Maelis t1_izlu4td wrote

I hate it tbh. I'm really not a fan of "crest flags." A flag should be something distinct that's easily recognizable from a distance or in tiny print. Put the crest by itself on other stuff if you want but have a modern striking flag design please.

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xarnard t1_izkj4c4 wrote

Could definitely use an update

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[deleted] OP t1_izku7o7 wrote

I love Oregon. They have a big beaver on the back of their flag. California is the bear, of course and Wyoming has a bison.

We need a groundhog!

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crhine17 t1_izkjvy2 wrote

There are many way better concepts that embrace the keystone...I'm all for it changing from the terrible seal on a flag

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MuckRaker83 t1_izkktzh wrote

It's great, needs even more mushrooms

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Ham_Ahoy t1_izkwx30 wrote

I am currently wearing a belt buckle with the flag design on it, so. . . It kicks ass.

Edit: I also fly the Pennsylvania flag just a few inches higher than the USA flag at my house.

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normalguy9293 t1_izln440 wrote

why do you fly it higher than the USA flag?

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Ham_Ahoy t1_izlnnk8 wrote

Because I'm a Pennsylvanian first and am American second. Also, because it is technically illegal, but so is putting the us flag on merchandise, or clothing. .. changing the colors of the flag (blue lives matter flags are illegal flags.) A whole host of things. "Flag code." There are many laws governing the proper use of flags and they are so often violated I violate one myself for fun.

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normalguy9293 t1_izlpcce wrote

interesting. what do you value about PA so much? or in what ways do you feel PA is better than the US as a whole?

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Ham_Ahoy t1_izlqhuj wrote

Honestly PA has lots of problems. I do want our coastline back. Delaware doesn't exist. The Johnstown flood tax needs to go. I do think PA is better culturally than most states (I feel this way about the northeast in general, and the original 13 more broadly). PA was founded directly because of one man railing about the right of jury veto, and pissed off the king so much he sent that man to the colonies with a sizeable chunk of land just to get rid of him. I love that.

It's not that I think PA is necessarily better than the US as a whole, though. . . Just that the US as a whole is ridiculous and I don't feel allegiance to it in the same way I do my home state.

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ellipses1 t1_iznvbuv wrote

It sounds like you’re a true american

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Ham_Ahoy t1_izo0sd5 wrote

I'm a Pennamite first.

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ellipses1 t1_izo16c0 wrote

As was intended… I don’t owe any Idahoans the time of day

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Redlar t1_iznzqrm wrote

>technically illegal

Eh, not technically illegal because it's the Flag Code not the Flag Law but I know exactly what you mean, burns my butt to see people that claim to be patriots and the like going around mistreating flags with the flimsy excuse that it's "not the actual flag" just something very closely resembling the flag 🙄 or attaching one to a vehicle only to let it get shredded

>There are many laws governing the proper use of flags and they are so often violated I violate one myself for fun.

I like your style

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TheTaraStark t1_izma4s9 wrote

I'm not a fan of it on a flag, but mostly because the coat of arms gets lost in the wind, or when the flag is limp. I agree that the coat of arms is badass, and it deserves more than to just get slapped on to a bedsheet. It deserves to be really seen on mediums that make it shine! That's part of why I designed a PA flag that references the coat of arms without making it into a mess - ideally, I want people to ask about the flag and wind up interested in the COA's history.

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TheManInTheSocks t1_izlmto2 wrote

Not a fan. Boring to look at, too many small details that are indistinguishable from any distance, looks like a lot of other state flags. I like a flag that's distinct and makes you think "Wow, I'd like to put that on a hat/t-shirt!" (Maryland, Colorado, Arizona, New Mexico, Canada, United Kingdom, Japan are a few that come to mind.)

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TheTaraStark t1_izmcctg wrote

What do you think of this?

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TheManInTheSocks t1_izqna8f wrote

Honestly the first time I saw it the color scheme didn't really work for me, something about the green and blue. After seeing it a few times I really like it though.

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MyFartsSparkle t1_izks7ui wrote

We should replace it with an orange fur flag with googly eyes 😂 Gritty forever!

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SamuelLCompassion t1_izkkjpg wrote

It's lame, and I'm legitimately jealous of other states that have better flags.

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CerealJello t1_izklv8z wrote

It breaks like half the guidelines for good flag design. Remove those crests that no one could pick out of a lineup and give us a simple design like Colorado's flag.

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Limp-Adhesiveness453 t1_izkz1ez wrote

Just stick a darn keystone there instead of the seal! Maybe a color change since blue is so common, I'd love a purple flag with a yellow keystone, but I guess blue would do

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yo_thats_bull t1_izkrara wrote

It could use an update, although I don't really like over simplified flags that make whatever they're representing look like a tech start up. A balance between traditional with a bit of an update could be nice.

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Jamminnav t1_izky02f wrote

Looks good next to the National Flag, I like that it’s a northern blue with sea, air, land, and the ingredients you need to make beer represented

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B0MBOY t1_izlrw11 wrote

It’s a not a flag, it’s a seal on a bedsheet. We could do way better.

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skipperoniandcheese t1_izlwr4j wrote

It’s eh. I don’t like flags with crests or words on them though so. I say we should just have the flag be split diagonally with the sheetz and wawa logos on either side. It’s the true spirit of the state

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skipperoniandcheese t1_izlwtk9 wrote

(And yes it would have words on it bc of the sheetz logo but i’m willing to make an exception for the sake of the joke)

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AFD_0 t1_izm9kcl wrote

Imo, it's too "horse-y" ;)

Honestly kinda like the horse/crest/eagle motif, but not a fan of the boring shade of royal blue background that's used in dozens of other state flags. And the ship is just kinda weird and out of place for what's an essentially land-locked state that really doesn't have much of a maritime industry outside of Erie and a handful of rivers.

Jmo, but one of the icons in the crest should be replaced by a pretzel.

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MacMac105 t1_izkrt5r wrote

Two horses locked in battle. It's great.

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Opossum-Fucker-1863 t1_izkyhvp wrote

I like the coat of arms but not the blue background.

I would love a flag that takes the tricolor from the center of the flag (blue, yellow, green) and expand it to the entire flag and shrink the coat of arms a bit to fit in the center band

Past that, I wouldn’t mind a flag based on William Penn’s coat of arms

Also, shamelessly promoting my personal Pennsylvania flag redesign

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TheTaraStark t1_izmammb wrote

Did someone say blue, yellow, green tricolor?

(Also, I dig what you did with your redesign! There were actually some variants of the Keystone Flag during a competition 3yrs ago that incorporated the black bar with white dishes on the keystone in a really similar manner to yours. Great minds!)

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ShammaJunk t1_izl70gz wrote

It’s boring. Especially compared to my home state of Maryland

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papi_chulo_LSD t1_izl9pej wrote

It should be a blue banner with a big ol golden keystone in the middle.

But I do like the horses on the current flag, so that’s cool.

An middle of the pack state flag

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mcvoid1 t1_izljitt wrote

I want a yellow keystone on a blue background with the colors matching Sweden's flag better since that's what the colors are supposed to reference. If you didn't know it's supposed to be Sweden's colors, it means the current hues failed at their only job.

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TheTaraStark t1_izmbgqn wrote

Philly's flag colors are referencing Sweden! PA's flag was meant to match the blue on the US flag, and was codified that way per a 1907 law. The gold is just a traditional color for a coat of arms.

If what you want is a yellow keystone on a blue (and green) background, the Keystone Flag exists!

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TheRealJewbilly t1_izlkunn wrote

Moving here from Maryland, a state that lives for its flag, it’s kinda boring. 😳

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TheTaraStark t1_izmbjfa wrote

If it makes you feel any better, there are still plenty of Maryland flags here in PA, too! 😂

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TheRealJewbilly t1_izni4uc wrote

License plates too! The amount of people that move here and don’t change their registration is bonkers.

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RedStar9117 t1_izlrjtd wrote

Crossed Sheetz and Wawa flags showing despite our differences we are all Pennsylvanians. And John Fetterman driving a monster truck

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Trixicity t1_izmksq7 wrote

Vexilogically, it's terrible. Too much detail, no interesting or bold patterns. From a practical standpoint, it's barely distinguishable from about 20 other state flags, all of which are blue with some kind of crest in the middle. If we ever went to war with New York or Michigan nobody would know who was on whose side.

For comparison, see Arizona, Texas, Colarado, New Mexico, Alaska, or Maryland's flags, which are actually used by normal people as state pride, and are even popular as tourist souvenirs. SC or Ohio are also pretty good IMO. State seal on blue background is pretty F-tier.

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atomiczombie79 t1_izo7yt4 wrote

A big pothole on a field of blue. Viola

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Caution999 t1_izom94a wrote

Needs more rainbows. We need to be more inclusive!

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NerdyRedneck45 t1_izkute0 wrote

I think a flag is something everyone should be able to draw from memory, even if it takes some time to do so or isn’t perfect. I’d have no clue where to start with our current one.

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VenomB t1_izkvrab wrote

I'll be honest, my first thought was "we have a flag?"

I mean, I get it. State flags and all, I just never even gave it thought. Without a picture, I couldn't tell you what it looks like, and unless its incredibly obvious, I probably wouldn't be able to pick it out of a line up.

So take that for what ya will.

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Limp-Adhesiveness453 t1_izkypw0 wrote

I hate hate hate it. Love the seal, but it has no place on a flag, use it for other stuff. We need a new simplified flag. I'm thinking same color blue, with gold tassels, and that's it

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WonderingHermit t1_izlkm6n wrote

Put an eagle and a rock on it, then the trio is complete.

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teegeek t1_izlq0kn wrote

We shouldn’t let Maryland show us up like that

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tomo32 t1_izmcgo1 wrote

It’s awful

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Ap3xHitman t1_izmf822 wrote

Its fine the way it is why change it?

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Ferks_ t1_izmmjvg wrote

I like the horses and general feel of it, but it could lose the wheat and plow which is overused on many other flags.

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OhFerFS t1_iznr5gz wrote

It sucks but it's better than Ohio's

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PhillyBilly1987 t1_iznum89 wrote

Needs hookers and guns and firetrucks and booze and hookers

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pocketbookashtray t1_izphk91 wrote

It needs to be simplified. Look at states like Texas or Colorado, with a simple design that kids can draw, and that is easily recognizable. As a result people and businesses can fly the flag more often because it’s recognizable. I’m all in on this one: https://keystoneflag.org/

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WorstTimeCaller t1_izpmvop wrote

Should have a pigeon standing on top of a traffic cone

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WentworthMillersBO t1_izl5mqo wrote

Absolutely dogwater, but I extend that belief to any state flag that is just the state emblem

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ChrisBegeman t1_izl8glw wrote

I have heard Pennsylvania's style of flag referred to as a seal on a sheet. While our flag is not literally our state seal in the middle of the flag, you probably have to have to google image of both to prove that it is not. While it is not a bad flag, the complexity makes it hard for the average person to make a image of the flag or even quite remember what all the elements of the flag are. So it isn't easy to just slap images of it or stylized images of it on things as a unifying image of our state. If you want flags that are good examples of this, see the Texas or Chicago flags. Luckily Pennsylvania has the PA Keystone as our easily reproduced and recognizable symbol.

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TheTaraStark t1_izmatf3 wrote

The Keystone Flag incorporates the colors of the coat of arms into a simple tricolor design with a keystone twist! Thoughts?

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EZKTurbo t1_izl9bag wrote

It's boring and it sucks

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Razar_Bragham t1_izl9emr wrote

A college friend of mine has been working on an alternative for a few years, simpler and bolder. KeystoneFlag and they are winding down the last 3 days of their crowdfunding campaign with $130 left.

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TheTaraStark t1_izmb33a wrote

🥹 hi! ty!! I wish I knew which college buddy this was, I have no clue who ppl are on reddit 😭 love you nonetheless

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seriousfrylock t1_izldr74 wrote

The whole trend of the state seal on a blue background is played out, over-used. I say we go with Wawa bird on white background

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GalaMoruu t1_izlhh1g wrote

I agree. Flags for Good has a design for the PA flag that I like better. Here’s the link.

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TheTaraStark t1_iznwwui wrote

It’s a solid, intuitive design! I remember seeing that design and saying “That looks familiar…” I had a similar design idea in 2017, and found out later someone else had a similar idea in 2012. The design resonates!

(Fwiw, FFG is the company printing the Keystone Flag for our now-funded Kickstarter, if you wanted to grab a design from a PA native!)

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jshrdd_ t1_izlkfh3 wrote

All the largest corporations and richest people should have their images on it. Let everyone know who runs and controls this joint.

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ufuknow t1_izkhwqh wrote

We should replace it with a blue flag

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SamuelLCompassion t1_izkn02s wrote

Maybe if we give our state legislature this very easy side quest, we can then clap for them and it will help them build the confidence they need to work on more important things.

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