Submitted by [deleted] t3_zh69fi in Pennsylvania
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Submitted by [deleted] t3_zh69fi in Pennsylvania
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I love it, absolute power horse of a state flag.
It's lame, and I'm legitimately jealous of other states that have better flags.
It's great, needs even more mushrooms
It’s just like half the other states’ flags — state seal on a blue background. We need something distinctive. I like this one: keystoneflag.org
r/vexillology will tell you it's hot garbage.
It breaks like half the guidelines for good flag design. Remove those crests that no one could pick out of a lineup and give us a simple design like Colorado's flag.
Maybe if we give our state legislature this very easy side quest, we can then clap for them and it will help them build the confidence they need to work on more important things.
"Symbol centered on a blue field" is so overdone
I read that as set a match to. 😂
Marylands flag is pretty freaking awesome, not gonna lie!
It could use an update, although I don't really like over simplified flags that make whatever they're representing look like a tech start up. A balance between traditional with a bit of an update could be nice.
I feel like it needs more flames for the background and an eagle flying over a hoagie or a taste cake.
Edit: ok so here we go. Flames all around, an eagle carrying a steel I beam flying over a cheese steak wearing an Amish hat, I think this covers the whole bad ass state.
We should replace it with an orange fur flag with googly eyes 😂 Gritty forever!
When flags like the Isle of Man exist, it's hard to get excited by state crest on blue.
Dude, that's an awesome campaign. That flag looks great! The kickstarter is only 3 days from ending and it's close to its goal... I hope they make it.
Can’t we get a Keystone shaped flag?
I think a flag is something everyone should be able to draw from memory, even if it takes some time to do so or isn’t perfect. I’d have no clue where to start with our current one.
Ugly, ugly flag. Looks like a 3rd grader came up with that. At least they stayed within the lines. Ugh lee.
I'll be honest, my first thought was "we have a flag?"
I mean, I get it. State flags and all, I just never even gave it thought. Without a picture, I couldn't tell you what it looks like, and unless its incredibly obvious, I probably wouldn't be able to pick it out of a line up.
So take that for what ya will.
Amen to that. That’s one I’d fly or put on anything
The format is Over used. So much blue
History needs to march to no "design" drummer.
I wish it were something simpler, a yellow or white keystone on a blue field would be great
I like the coat of arms but not the blue background.
I would love a flag that takes the tricolor from the center of the flag (blue, yellow, green) and expand it to the entire flag and shrink the coat of arms a bit to fit in the center band
Past that, I wouldn’t mind a flag based on William Penn’s coat of arms
Also, shamelessly promoting my personal Pennsylvania flag redesign
I don't care for the green on it and I usually like green.
A simple gold keystone on a black background would certainly be interesting, lol.
I hate hate hate it. Love the seal, but it has no place on a flag, use it for other stuff. We need a new simplified flag. I'm thinking same color blue, with gold tassels, and that's it
Just stick a darn keystone there instead of the seal! Maybe a color change since blue is so common, I'd love a purple flag with a yellow keystone, but I guess blue would do
Oh, and they have
Or a deer with a tire track through it.
I’m from MD and can confirm. They put it on EVERYTHING.
Absolutely dogwater, but I extend that belief to any state flag that is just the state emblem
Yeah, that’s my only issue with it.
Still like it better than the current flag though.
It’s boring. Especially compared to my home state of Maryland
States official colors are blue and gold (which is why the license plates have blue and gold/yellow stripes). Should be a gold keystone on a blue background
I have heard Pennsylvania's style of flag referred to as a seal on a sheet. While our flag is not literally our state seal in the middle of the flag, you probably have to have to google image of both to prove that it is not. While it is not a bad flag, the complexity makes it hard for the average person to make a image of the flag or even quite remember what all the elements of the flag are. So it isn't easy to just slap images of it or stylized images of it on things as a unifying image of our state. If you want flags that are good examples of this, see the Texas or Chicago flags. Luckily Pennsylvania has the PA Keystone as our easily reproduced and recognizable symbol.
A college friend of mine has been working on an alternative for a few years, simpler and bolder. KeystoneFlag and they are winding down the last 3 days of their crowdfunding campaign with $130 left.
It should be a blue banner with a big ol golden keystone in the middle.
But I do like the horses on the current flag, so that’s cool.
An middle of the pack state flag
I like the flames idea. Maybe in the foreground have a philly cheese steak and a primanti's sandwich swordfighting or something
What if it was just a keystone centered on a blue field. Itd be a A-S tier flag imo
Agreeded. But I also like the Philly tricolor. So maybe a tricolor with the keystone superimposed on the front.
TastyKake pies were the staple of my morning commute. Pick up a coffee and pie at Wa Wa and head to work. Not all that many years ago, the pies were packaged by themselves in their cartons. For some reason, they were redesigned and packaged in a small aluminum tin in the carton. Formerly, the top and bottom crust of the pies were bonded so that you could pick them up and eat them while in the car. Now the top and bottom crusts are separate pieces of pastry that, when bitten fall to pieces and get the filling all over your shirt.
Every once in a while, I'll forget and the whole scenario plays out again.
A pox on them for screwing up an already well designed product.
This guy gets it
Hey!... I'm mean, your right, but, Hey! You can't talk shit about our flag. Only we can talk shit about our flag.
I didn't know they're separate now, I just thought they got shitty. In the car is literally the only place I ever eat them.
Needs a Keystone, the symbol of our state.
Well, I almost said that but people hate how boring and similar our state's current flag is to a bunch of other states.
Personally I like that idea.
The story behind Maryland’s state Flag is pretty interesting as well.
The whole trend of the state seal on a blue background is played out, over-used. I say we go with Wawa bird on white background
Split the difference and you've got the state Army National Guard's 28th Infantry Division flag.
Put an eagle and a rock on it, then the trio is complete.
Moving here from Maryland, a state that lives for its flag, it’s kinda boring. 😳
Well played!!!
Maybe an Eagle perched on a steel I-beam.
Not a fan. Boring to look at, too many small details that are indistinguishable from any distance, looks like a lot of other state flags. I like a flag that's distinct and makes you think "Wow, I'd like to put that on a hat/t-shirt!" (Maryland, Colorado, Arizona, New Mexico, Canada, United Kingdom, Japan are a few that come to mind.)
Make it a rainbow
why do you fly it higher than the USA flag?
Because I'm a Pennsylvanian first and am American second. Also, because it is technically illegal, but so is putting the us flag on merchandise, or clothing. .. changing the colors of the flag (blue lives matter flags are illegal flags.) A whole host of things. "Flag code." There are many laws governing the proper use of flags and they are so often violated I violate one myself for fun.
a third grader did come up with it if you read the story in the link. they were inspired by a child's homework assignment.
I dislike that we just have the seal on a blue background like so many other states. I'd want something incorporating the keystone or at least state colors.
Carrying
interesting. what do you value about PA so much? or in what ways do you feel PA is better than the US as a whole?
>They have a big beaver on the back of their flag.
What's on the front?
Honestly PA has lots of problems. I do want our coastline back. Delaware doesn't exist. The Johnstown flood tax needs to go. I do think PA is better culturally than most states (I feel this way about the northeast in general, and the original 13 more broadly). PA was founded directly because of one man railing about the right of jury veto, and pissed off the king so much he sent that man to the colonies with a sizeable chunk of land just to get rid of him. I love that.
It's not that I think PA is necessarily better than the US as a whole, though. . . Just that the US as a whole is ridiculous and I don't feel allegiance to it in the same way I do my home state.
Looks a little like Pennsylvania
Crossed Sheetz and Wawa flags showing despite our differences we are all Pennsylvanians. And John Fetterman driving a monster truck
Seal on a bedsheet!
It’s eh. I don’t like flags with crests or words on them though so. I say we should just have the flag be split diagonally with the sheetz and wawa logos on either side. It’s the true spirit of the state
(And yes it would have words on it bc of the sheetz logo but i’m willing to make an exception for the sake of the joke)
Flying over a cheese steak would be ideal!
That’s awesome. I think we need to keep nailing the keystone home as our symbol. It’s unique and apt
>state Army National Guard's 28th Infantry Division flag
Take off the lettering and its actually pretty good.
Drinking wooder ice.
Yea that flag is dope.
There's a redesign out there a child has already drawn for a homework assignment!
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You've just described something that looks a lot like the Keystone Flag!
A big part of that issue though is simply that the art in the center is way too complicated/detailed. Also there's no contrast between the black horses and the blue field. South Carolina and Alaska follow a similar "symbol on a blue field" formula but I'd rank them solidly above most of the rest as the symbols are relatively simple and easy to identify. Even Indiana's is better because the symbol is so much simpler, there's clear color contrast, etc.
I do quite like the Pennsylvania coat of arms on its own, it works well in printed designs. I just don't think it works well as a flag.
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Oh I hate the current flag
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Believe it or not, we actually don't have official colors! People see those colors prominently on the state flag, but that's circumstance, same with the license plate and a few state agency logos, and tourism wound up running with it. They still made it into this design, though!
If what you want is "unique," that pop of green would really help us stand out!
I see what you did there
Agreed on all fronts, especially how strong the COA is. That's part of why I did my best to carry an extremely basic form of the COA into the design!
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It's always the horses lol 💜
Maybe something like this would be a little easier? Children have actually drawn this one!
Imo, it's too "horse-y" ;)
Honestly kinda like the horse/crest/eagle motif, but not a fan of the boring shade of royal blue background that's used in dozens of other state flags. And the ship is just kinda weird and out of place for what's an essentially land-locked state that really doesn't have much of a maritime industry outside of Erie and a handful of rivers.
Jmo, but one of the icons in the crest should be replaced by a pretzel.
I'm not a fan of it on a flag, but mostly because the coat of arms gets lost in the wind, or when the flag is limp. I agree that the coat of arms is badass, and it deserves more than to just get slapped on to a bedsheet. It deserves to be really seen on mediums that make it shine! That's part of why I designed a PA flag that references the coat of arms without making it into a mess - ideally, I want people to ask about the flag and wind up interested in the COA's history.
Did someone say blue, yellow, green tricolor?
(Also, I dig what you did with your redesign! There were actually some variants of the Keystone Flag during a competition 3yrs ago that incorporated the black bar with white dishes on the keystone in a really similar manner to yours. Great minds!)
Just a blue field and gold fringe? Nothing else on it?
The Keystone Flag incorporates the colors of the coat of arms into a simple tricolor design with a keystone twist! Thoughts?
🥹 hi! ty!! I wish I knew which college buddy this was, I have no clue who ppl are on reddit 😭 love you nonetheless
make it a blue and green banner and you just described the Keystone Flag
Philly's flag colors are referencing Sweden! PA's flag was meant to match the blue on the US flag, and was codified that way per a 1907 law. The gold is just a traditional color for a coat of arms.
If what you want is a yellow keystone on a blue (and green) background, the Keystone Flag exists!
If it makes you feel any better, there are still plenty of Maryland flags here in PA, too! 😂
We did make it! If you want anything, you're always welcome to grab something during the final few days, too, of course 😊
What do you think of this?
I really like your design! I think I am going to get a flag...
Its fine the way it is why change it?
Some flame decals are definitely needed I agree.
Vexilogically, it's terrible. Too much detail, no interesting or bold patterns. From a practical standpoint, it's barely distinguishable from about 20 other state flags, all of which are blue with some kind of crest in the middle. If we ever went to war with New York or Michigan nobody would know who was on whose side.
For comparison, see Arizona, Texas, Colarado, New Mexico, Alaska, or Maryland's flags, which are actually used by normal people as state pride, and are even popular as tourist souvenirs. SC or Ohio are also pretty good IMO. State seal on blue background is pretty F-tier.
Yeah I saw, that's terrific!! I already grabbed what I can afford atm and am crossing my fingers that you get enough backers to pull off the pride flag. Good luck with the rest of the campaign, and thank you for doing it!
Yes, it's bold, it makes a statement. We're blue abadiabadi
What no Yeungling?
License plates too! The amount of people that move here and don’t change their registration is bonkers.
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I’m downvoting you because I’m from Pittsburgh. …not because I dislike your snappy comment, lol.
I really like this flag!
I really like this flag!
If we were green, would we die? Dabadeedabadie?
I’m glad it resonates! Our Kickstarter just hit its goal last night, so if you wanted some swag, it’ll be around until Dec 12th!
Needs hookers and guns and firetrucks and booze and hookers
It sounds like you’re a true american
Even if this were true, what would be wrong with that? Alaska’s flag was designed by a teenager, and decades later it’s still one of the most beloved US state flags.
(For anyone who cares, the kid was barely born when I was putting the design together in 2017 - I received that homework photo from a friend and supporter about 2 months ago. That said, this is the funniest misreading of a situation I’ve seen in a while, and I appreciate you for that 😂)
I think it’s hilarious how the horses are the one thing people remember about the design.
If you’re looking for colors that stand out against the rest of the nation, how about this?
It’s a solid, intuitive design! I remember seeing that design and saying “That looks familiar…” I had a similar design idea in 2017, and found out later someone else had a similar idea in 2012. The design resonates!
(Fwiw, FFG is the company printing the Keystone Flag for our now-funded Kickstarter, if you wanted to grab a design from a PA native!)
This is a problem for me as well
The eagle flying out of a pothole.
Yup, grew up there, family's from there, it's a distinct and striking flag
I've lived in PA, at this point, longer than my birth state so I feel alright critiquing the PA flag
Holy moly, it's soooo boring compared to MD's.
There that's my critique lol
>technically illegal
Eh, not technically illegal because it's the Flag Code not the Flag Law but I know exactly what you mean, burns my butt to see people that claim to be patriots and the like going around mistreating flags with the flimsy excuse that it's "not the actual flag" just something very closely resembling the flag 🙄 or attaching one to a vehicle only to let it get shredded
>There are many laws governing the proper use of flags and they are so often violated I violate one myself for fun.
I like your style
I'm a Pennamite first.
As was intended… I don’t owe any Idahoans the time of day
I didn't mean anything rude, I just misread it! It's a good design and I personally like it! Good job!
A big pothole on a field of blue. Viola
Not. Enough. Potholes. Just put holes in the flag too. That’ll be cooler.
Needs more rainbows. We need to be more inclusive!
Yes! It's perfect!!!
It needs to be simplified. Look at states like Texas or Colorado, with a simple design that kids can draw, and that is easily recognizable. As a result people and businesses can fly the flag more often because it’s recognizable. I’m all in on this one: https://keystoneflag.org/
Outstanding! Next governor candidate that runs on the new flag platform gets my vote.
Should have a pigeon standing on top of a traffic cone
Gas pumper.
Honestly the first time I saw it the color scheme didn't really work for me, something about the green and blue. After seeing it a few times I really like it though.
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It’s trash