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hemiones t1_izz6kq1 wrote

Arrowhead hunting was one of my siblings and I favorite thing to do. We’re Southeast, came from Arizona. We always were so amazed that we’d find things like that on the East Coast rather than the west….mostly because of old westerns and bad history lessons lol.

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stonehawk61 OP t1_izzd6gz wrote

Western Pa wasn't exactly a hotbed of native habitation but it still witnessed it's share of native activity.

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xjmetallium t1_j0150pf wrote

There is a rich culture of natives in western pa, some being susquehanook, Kaskaskia, osage and erie. I would do some more research before saying such things

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stonehawk61 OP t1_j01c88s wrote

Where exactly, did I say there wasn't a such culture?

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xjmetallium t1_j05g5ia wrote

Your comment says it all saying it wasnt a hotbed for native habitation! That's basically saying we don't have anything!

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stonehawk61 OP t1_j06ny40 wrote

So "native activity" is bereft of and is not in any way associative to or indicative of a culture or a population?! Got it! Thanks for clearing that up! Cahokia, Chichén-Itzá, Tenochtitlan, Echota or any number of Central or South American population centers would be by my ignorant, ill informed definition, hotbeds of native habitation. Perhaps given your hours of extensive research and vast knowledge of the histories, population levels and cultures of the tribes of Western Pennsylvania, you should easily be able to provide us with a list of comparable sites.

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stonehawk61 OP t1_j06x8by wrote

Let me help you out.
Wennawoods Publishing A History of the Indian Villages and Place Names in Pennsylvania by George Patterson.
Indian Wars of Pennsylvania by C. Hale Sipe
The Indian Chiefs of Pennsylvania : The Story of the Part Played by the American Indian in Pennsylvania History by C. Hale Sipe.
Need more? I've read them all and then some. Each more in depth than a quick Google search.
Edit for spelling

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stonehawk61 OP t1_j075l0g wrote

Get off the internet and read a fucking book.

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Cool-Ad2780 t1_j075wzl wrote

Forget to switch to your alt account? 😂😂😂

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stonehawk61 OP t1_j078hy2 wrote

Nope....hoping to at least get a response from the commenter to any one of my comments. Lol

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xjmetallium t1_j08y3kx wrote

After this i won't be responding, you aren't worth my time and you have shown me enough of your ignorance on the matter. Have a day

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xjmetallium t1_j08wzid wrote

I do read books, i have done my research and talked to natives. My family is from western, pa as well! And all of those are pale skin authors, so thanks for the not the best information. And someone did put a link in your comments to help you see on a map where tribes were at and what land we are occupying

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stonehawk61 OP t1_j09y6r5 wrote

To XJMETALLIUM,
You have in no way refuted the arguments I've presented. Your unsubstantiated claim that the books and authors I posted were unreliable because they were written by pale skins (your racism highlights your ignorance) is conclusively disingenuous by definition. Once again, and I can't stress this enough, I NEVER said there weren't any native populations in this area. Those were your words, perniciously misrepresented from my comment, with which you then felt justified in using to discount my statement and call into question my knowledge on a subject to which I have devoted nearly 40 years of my life. You are most assuredly out of your league. Additionally, recalling another commenters post as a gotcha moment, by linking to a tribal distribution map (probably drawn and published by pale skins, again your words) is without substance and is inherently ineffective in the defense of your pathetic comments, solely because you have yet to definitively demonstrate how and where I stated there were no natives. Only then would its inclusion add credence to your assertion.
Ultimately, I have to question your ability to reach a logical conclusion or to present a coherent claim, when the comprehension of 2 simple sentences is beyond your grasp. I still recommend you read more books (written only by native authors of course, as your biases require). I would however, suggest you start with the dictionary.
Ps; I wonder, exactly how is it that have you concluded that I'm not of native descent?

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invisiblearchives t1_j02mdum wrote

Just because the europeans didn't know them doesn't mean they didn't exist.

The monongahela people were a part of the mississipian culture, and had a massive population which was decimated by smallpox LONG before colonists crossed into the Ohio River Valley.

The OHR was so emptied by smallpox and migration that by the time of the beaver wars it was mostly empty.

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Mor_Tearach t1_j01iizt wrote

Pennsylvania is a little odd about indigenous artifacts. On one hand we have a plethora of artifacts, on the other a refusal to acknowledge an indigenous, pre- contact or otherwise tribe. I think we're the only state that doesn't acknowledge even one.

It's a little baffling. Like our state borders were in place before Europeans got here along with the blue and yellow " Welcome to Pennsylvania " sign.

Meadowcroft is awesome for instance. Tons of ancient history here, wish it were possible to connect the dots without raising a fire storm of controversy.

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stonehawk61 OP t1_izzh1q6 wrote

Most likely. I'm not expert in material identification. The vast majority of pieces I find are probably Onodaga, although I have found slate, quartz, flint and what I'm fairly certain is petrified wood among other things.

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outsider01 t1_j00pm0s wrote

Interesting. My grandfather gave me a set he collected from NE PA

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BramDeccapod t1_izzj6ks wrote

I would really like to go hunting for artifacts with my Kid !

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stonehawk61 OP t1_izzo7fb wrote

In the spring, walking through plowed fields along rivers and streams is how I started. Research online and other resources and most importantly remember to practice patience.

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SmasherOfAjumma t1_j01f24q wrote

I’d really like to find an arrowhead some day. I don’t know where to look though.

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Mor_Tearach t1_j01jjrj wrote

Between state and private land there's usually some restrictions, check them out first. Otherwise creeks and river banks and area around them- both have changed courses through the decades and centuries probably several times. What was once land is now water, vice versa.

Good friend is indigenous, not PA, west coast. She said it's important to be respectful when artifact hunting, I mean about their original owners. That makes sense to me.

And good luck!

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BrobaFett83 t1_j01o1ig wrote

I remember when I found my first arrowhead with my uncle and my dad. It was an amazing experience and it's something I will never forget.

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