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steelceasar t1_j07vzh5 wrote

Reply to comment by Matt-33-205 in Sen. Pat Toomey blocks landmark reform legislation to fight global money laundering by cpr4life8

I'll bite. Libertarianism is a pathetic joke. Libertarians in the United States are either Republican shills who like "both-siding" Democrats. Or they don't understand reality because they grew up privileged and have a false sense of how hereditary wealth is a massive advantage over those without it.

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Matt-33-205 t1_j089lfg wrote

I'm neither of those. There are people out there who still believe in individual freedom and liberty, I am one of those people. I know that's an unpopular and rare perspective on reddit, but we exist bro.

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steelceasar t1_j08arbk wrote

>individual freedom and liberty

So if the government stopped regulating things the free market would allow you to have these? You think your AR-15 is going to prevent corporations and the ultra wealthy from screwing you over in pursuit of profit? It's not that it's "unpopular or reddit" it's that it's naive to point of laughable.

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Matt-33-205 t1_j08bu0u wrote

Ironic, what's so naive to the point that it's laughable are those people who believe in socialism and massive government.

I didn't say there should be no government regulation, I said government should be limited. The ultra wealthy corporations and individuals you rail against, are you aware that they use government to enrich themselves even further? Rich donors control both parties, don't fool yourself into believing far left politicians have your best interests at heart. They don't.

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steelceasar t1_j08cx1h wrote

>The ultra wealthy corporations and individuals you rail against, are you aware that they use government to enrich themselves even further?

So cut out the middleman right? Might as well just let them openly enrich themselves without that pesky government trying to interfere.

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Matt-33-205 t1_j08gw05 wrote

This back-and-forth doesn't seem productive. You keep creating a straw man argument, an argument that I am not making. Some government regulation is necessary, I am not an anarchist, but I am a realist.

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steelceasar t1_j08hqjh wrote

You were the one complaining about all the downvotes and asking for a discussion. Here is a recent example of why Democrats (while far from perfect) are a better choice when it comes to dark money and campaign finance reform than Republicans.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/senate/3656002-republicans-block-bill-requiring-dark-money-groups-to-reveal-donors/amp/

This is not a both sides are bad issue when you look at the actual evidence.

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