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cigarmanpa t1_j0f9u25 wrote

  1. It’ll be a cold day in hell before I recognize mizzuri
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powersurge t1_j0g3hu0 wrote

Or Indiana. What a pathetic reason to have a state.

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barbarian_roll_d12 t1_j0gjz1q wrote

Can confirm! I’m originally from Northwest Indiana near Chicago and we are the ONLY area worth saving. The rest of the state is red and loathsome.

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SquintyB t1_j0gqlqy wrote

  1. just because Dakota recognizes north and south they are connected and therefore a single entity.
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LadyNorbert t1_j0h3m1a wrote

By that logic, so are the Carolinas.

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SquintyB t1_j0h4ol3 wrote

Excellent point! Were down to 47. Add in. The Virginia's and the answer is a solid 46!

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Hazel1928 t1_j0me1y8 wrote

If ND and SD were one state, we would have 49, not 48. We wouldn’t lose 2 states., there would still be the state of Dakota.

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IamSauerKraut t1_j0jk46s wrote

But whatever would Sedi Hawley do for a paycheck then? Has no skills at all.

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EAS_Agrippa t1_j0feaf5 wrote

It’s a title, not a governmental distinction. We have state government, state stores, state troopers. Pennsylvania is 1 of 50 states in the United States, we are a state. Having said that we are the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania…it’s our name.

You can argue we are a state by every reasonable metric and you would be correct, expect that we call ourselves something different. We have chosen to do that, and when referring to the state, it should be referred to as the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

You might call a man who you think is named Tom, well let say Fred by mistake. There’s nothing wrong with that, but when they say “hey I’m Tom, not Fred,” if you keep calling them Fred, you’re the asshole.

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bengenj t1_j0j8mtw wrote

Virginia, Massachusetts, Kentucky are also commonwealths. The Commonwealth of Virginia, The Commonwealth of Massachusetts, and the Commonwealth of Kentucky.

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GraffitiTavern t1_j0m4ftr wrote

When I was in high school, I learned that we were a commonwealth because we had a less centralized government, later of course I learned PA is one of the more decentralized states with the strength of local government and strong regional character, but that has exactly zero to do with being a commonwealth.

Personally, I like the name, I think it sets us apart and the kind of old-timey charm of the name fits with the rich history PA has.

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IrrumaboMalum t1_j0f8em2 wrote

The United States has 46 states and 4 commonwealths, but the distinction is in name only. Governance is the same in both states and commonwealths.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/whats-the-difference-between-a-commonwealth-and-a-state

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ScrappleOnToast OP t1_j0fc0x4 wrote

So what are you trying to say? 46 states, or 50? It can’t be both.

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IrrumaboMalum t1_j0fff5n wrote

The United States is comprised of 50 states. 4 of those states (PA, VA, MA and KY) call themselves commonwealths, but there is no legal or functional distinction between a commonwealth and a state. 46 of those states call themselves states.

This is a pretty simple and straight forward answer.

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itsallfornaught2 t1_j0jcr9s wrote

It's like if states were people. Right...there's 46 people with 4 persons.

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Agent-Pierce- t1_j0fk6h5 wrote

I dont recognize any so called state. Pennsylvania is its own country to me.

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AFD_0 t1_j0gz51f wrote

50? Our Commonwealth is a state, but not all states are Commonwealths.

Our official state seal is called the "Great Seal of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania", while itself stating "Seal of the State of Pennsylvania". Our early state constitution also used both terms.

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jimmyrocks t1_j0h557e wrote

And not all "Commonwealths" are states, like Puerto Rico and the Northern Mariana Islands.

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ScrappleOnToast OP t1_j0h1ivh wrote

Right. There’s just been a lot of folks saying “we’re not a state, we’re a commonwealth”, which I find really bizarre.

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Perlin-Davenport t1_j0i8mjp wrote

Looking at nonprofits like UPMC I'm not sure I can call this a Commonwealth.... more like "uncommon wealth for some" and much more "common unwealth for others"...

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E_Pluribus_Omnom t1_j0fdky2 wrote

I had a coworker "correct" me in conversation when I regarded PA as a state back when COVID was hot.

I asked, what is the difference? The answer... commonwealths are socialist.

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artificialavocado t1_j0fusju wrote

Oh come on we don’t need Fox News sending it’s minions to try to kidnap the governor or some crazy shit.

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antagron1 t1_j0g5aab wrote

Ah the great socialist haven that is Kentucky!

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kifn2 t1_j0hyxgg wrote

Per the Massachusetts website: "Commonwealths are states, but the reverse is not true."

There are 50 states.

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eviljelloman t1_j0ik16f wrote

We're an anarcho-syndicist commune.

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ScrappleOnToast OP t1_j0j3ozs wrote

Yes, but how do you feel about strange women lying in ponds, distributing swords as a basis for a system of government?

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Wuz314159 t1_j0fdddk wrote

46, 50, or 56.

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GraffitiTavern t1_j0m50un wrote

Let's just do the average then

46+50+56=152 152/3=50.67

There are 50.67 states.

Presumably counting DC as 1, and New Jersey as 2/3.

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Hazel1928 t1_j0hc5st wrote

I know Virginia is also a Commonwealth and I am pretty sure there are others.

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[deleted] t1_j0jj9d8 wrote

PA is a state constitutionally

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Floridaman7654321 t1_j0g6rlt wrote

48, It'll be a cold day in hell before I recognize Colorado or Rhode Island.

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