Im_100percent_human t1_j0nztgm wrote on December 18, 2022 at 2:56 AM

Snow tires are 1960s technology. There have been lots of advances in polymers and tread patterns since.... There are now some very good snow rated all season tires, like Michelin CrossClimate 2. They even have the US Tire Manufactures Association's "Mountain/Snowflake" winter tire certification, meaning you can run them on roads that legally require snow tires. (like some areas in the Rockies.) Tires like this are not cheap, but it sure beats changing tires twice a year.

Jon3141592653589 t1_j0o2jb9 wrote on December 18, 2022 at 3:19 AM

The CrossClimate 2 are really impressive. I got them for a FWD car that I drive between PA and FL, after a harrowing drive with "eco" tires following a hurricane, and while I haven't tried them in the snow yet they are far more secure in the rain than anything else I've driven, including high-performance summer tires.

RemoteStatement OP t1_j0o4vio wrote on December 18, 2022 at 3:39 AM

There have been a few mentions of those types of tires. Thanks for your reply.

Jon3141592653589 t1_j0o5brt wrote on December 18, 2022 at 3:43 AM

I think the advantage is they are very secure despite being a tire you can use year-round. A recent Jalopnik article also highlighted a review suggesting that they are great even as they age, too: https://jalopnik.com/keeping-your-worn-michelins-might-be-better-than-going-1849855057

RemoteStatement OP t1_j0o14bs wrote on December 18, 2022 at 3:07 AM

> Ya that would be ideal. I just looked them up they are about twice as much as the winters. Thanks for your reply

itsallfornaught2 t1_j0o3e3u wrote on December 18, 2022 at 3:26 AM

You're better looking for OEM tires on craigslist or something and buying those and installing winters on those. Run those winters when the forecast becomes <45F highs and run all seasons otherwise. You'll have two sets of wheels and you can change them yourself. On top of that you'll run through tires less frequently.

RemoteStatement OP t1_j0o4nr0 wrote on December 18, 2022 at 3:37 AM

That is probably what will happen but not until next winter .I actually saw winter tires mounted on Toyota rims on marketplace. They were on the far side of the state and the sold in less than 24 hours. Thanks for your reply.