Dredly t1_j25nubx wrote on December 29, 2022 at 9:02 PM

Reply to comment by turbodsm in Who would like this law changed? Regarding trails on preserved farmland by turbodsm

wait... so you want to put in a blacktop walking trail on private property?

and, I hate to point out the obvious - but those are required as part of NEW DEVELOPMENT, meaning they are zoned in... this is the equivalent of "must install sidewalks"... how in the hell is this relevant to people using rural trails, walking all over the place and shitting wherever they want

turbodsm OP t1_j25uf3t wrote on December 29, 2022 at 9:46 PM

Do you not understand this or do you spin everything as negatively as possible?

I'd like the county and municipals to be able to work with owners of preserved farm land to install asphalt trails on the edges of the property lines parallel with existing roads. I said work with. Currently there is 0% chance of this happening because of state law. That's outdated and needs to change. We need trails. E-bikes are doubling every year in usage. People want to get out their house and take walks. We need fewer car trips. If your shitty county isn't doing these things, then butt out of the conversation.

When asked which trails have the problem with users "walking all over the place" you still haven't named a single one. If users of a trail are doing such a thing, it's a problem with trail design.

Starting to realize you're just a troll.

Dredly t1_j261z7m wrote on December 29, 2022 at 10:37 PM

You want farmers to give rights to the public to walk all over their property on permanent trails which they would surrender their property to enable.

and I've walked on a ton of trails in NE PA, on game lands, state forests, in the Lehigh Valley, Worlds End, stretches of the Appalachian Trail and a bunch of others... and no matter what, there is very clear signs that people have abused the privilege of being there, they have littered, they have left graffiti everywhere possible, and they have walked off the trails wherever they felt like it.

I would LOVE to know what trails or paths you are walking on where people magically show respect for the rules... cause I have YET to see anything like that anywhere. Hell I haven't even seen a spot where people stay on the sidewalk and don't let their dogs shit in everyones yards

turbodsm OP t1_j26ehim wrote on December 30, 2022 at 12:02 AM

Yes, you act like no farm has ever allowed an easement on their property.

And you saw trash? Oh no. Did you look on the roads as you drove there? Or were the roads magically clean somehow? I recently hiked at ricketts glen and it was very clean. Tyler state park, very clean. Newtown rail trail all the way to Roosevelt Blvd. Very clean.

You must be the old guy yelling at people to get off your lawn.