Submitted by Laaazybonesss t3_zz6bbc in Pennsylvania
This case is so wild and the fact that he was found in Monroe County is blowing my true crime obsessed mind right now.
Person Of Interest in Idaho Homicides Arrested in Pennsylvania Near Pocono Mountains
Eta yes I messed up the title and can’t fix it, dang it
I'm from Moscow (the town where the murders took place) and it's kind of weird knowing when I was out doordashing that evening, he was probably getting ready to kill people near where I was from
EDIT: Moscow Idaho in the Pacific Northwest of the United States.
Grew up in Moscow, Idaho, and now live in SE PA, so this story has taken an even weirder turn for me.
Ditto, I went to U Idaho there - pea and lentil capital of the world! - and lived in apartments not far from where the murders occurred. Then the guy ends up in PA not that far from where I live now. The whole thing is just too horrible. My heart goes out to the families.
I lived in Philadelphia and my neighbor was murdered. A few weeks later a friend was saying there were all these helicopters and police on their street and they didn’t know why. Turns out the murderer was their neighbor.https://6abc.com/melissa-ketunuti-fund-charity-chop/720426/
For some reason, I'm stuck on a Moscow, Idaho.
This is in Idaho, roughly 300 miles east of Seattle
Am I mistaken? Isn't that what I said?
Idaho is a state in the United States of America. A city is a human settlement of notable size.
Well now I'm more confused. Isn't Moscow in Russia?
City names are often reused. Ex: there are 24 towns worldwide named Dublin, including the obvious famous one.
Dublin, Ohio?
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Mos Cow, is the milk bar one sector away from Mos Eisley.
Mos Eisley was a spaceport on the desert planet of Tatooine.
Russia is a country in the fictional Jesus universe
Today I learned Idaho is considered the PNW
The north part of Idaho (where I live and this took place) is way closer culturally to Eastern and Central Washington state than to the southern part of Idaho. Therefore if you consider Washington state part of the Pacific Northwest, then North Idaho also is
Totally agree, and have been debating this “Oregonian” below because he KNOWS he is right since he lived there for a decade.
It's not 😂 they wish they were. It's Midwest through and through.
Idaho is not at all considered Midwest. Pacific Northwest (N. Idaho) or Inland Northwest/Intermountain West (S. Idaho), but absolutely not Midwest.
Hey logic! Do not take my statement as an assault, but "inland" nw is made up, it's more like outskirts West by mid-west. Jackson hole(which is mid west) is like 20 miles from the Idaho/Wyoming boarder. Idaho is irrefutably midwest. I'll contest to Northern Idaho as eastern pnw, but that's like calling something inland 😆
Wyoming is also not Midwest.
I googled it before commenting, it is the Pacific North West from what I found.
I'm just speaking from experience and the fact that I lived in Oregon for over a decade. Idaho is West-mid-West. 😆
Yeah, but they’re from Idaho and they’re saying it’s the PNW. In addition to the internet. Not sure why all of that is trumped by you living in Oregon for however long.
I reference my first comment, they wish.
And I reference google search results. You wish.
You don't get it. Get off the internet and travel a little. You won't have to reference Google for geographical information 😂
That’s cool, but by your logic you’re still wrong. Guess we should all listen to the guy who lived in Oregon over the person who lived in Idaho 🙄
You are like talking to a brick wall. Here's another example to clarify what I'm saying. People that live in new Jersey across the river from Philly, say they're from Philly. They're not, but that's what they say then you find where they actually live and you explain to them that they live in Jersey, not Philly. This conversation is done, you have no life experience to dwell on and only have Google for references, you're essentially a bot.
Are you one of those people who won’t change their mind even when evidence and anecdote tell you you’re wrong? If you don’t think so you may want to reflect on it a little longer if after the below you still think you’re right.
Go to Wikipedia to check for yourself, but I’ve saved you the trouble. While there is not a consensus on which of the three options below is true “PNW” all include Idaho.
“The map below shows three possibilities: (1) The shaded area shows the historical Oregon Country. (2) The green line shows the Cascadia bioregion.[6] (3) The labeled states and provinces include Washington, Idaho, Oregon and British Columbia.”
Like I said I've lived in the PNW and have been to Idaho and lived in shortly. My statement is but perspective, but if you've ever been to either you'd understand wth I'm talking about.
One last key factor, Idaho does not touch the Pacific ocean, so how could it be classified pnw.
I’ve been to both, with friends living in Bend and Eugene who I’ve visited several times. Drove from Seattle to the Olympic peninsula along the Juan de Fuca straight from Port Angeles. Went down to second beach and La Push and went through the rain forest. Took the train south from Seattle to Portland. Drove from Eugene to Boise. Didn’t spend a ton of time in Boise but overall I agree it didn’t add up as being the Pacific Northwest. However, I was not in Northern Idaho, where the poster above says it is culturally closer to PNW. Given that everything on the internet agrees with them, I’m going with them.
Does that cover all of our bases?
😂 definitely 👏. Northern Idaho should for sure be dubbed it's own state, it's totally different than the rest of ID. Culturally wise, it's more like Utah though to add to the argument 😅
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And you've been to Idaho? 😂 I hear what you're saying, I'm just stating that the title of pnw has no business including Idaho. Apparently Alaska is apart of the pnw too, I beg to differ on that one as well.
Wtf are you talking about? You just proved you know nothing about the PNW, or the Midwest for that matter.
Sure I don't. Your statement has made me see the truth. How could I ever have a difference of opinion from actual life experience and perspective, I pray thee forgive me, I know nothing about anything and then some. Thank you so much for your clarity. I bow to you for your insight be so fruitful.
Have the sanctions impacted life a lot around there?
This is a Moscow in the Pacific Northwest of the US. Not Russia
There's a Moscow outside the Poconos as well which makes it that much more confusing.
Yea my first though was Moscow, PA? But I though the murders were in Idaho?
Moscow, ID is named after Moscow, PA.
Yeah man I was joking. Appreciate the kind response though.
Since when is Idaho considered part of the PNW? Is Spokane even considered part of the PNW?
Pretty much all of Washington state is considered part of the PNW, and north Idaho is way more integrated with Eastern Washington state than southern Idaho, so specifically North Idaho
I saw he was arrested in NEPA and immediately turned on our local news. Definitely wasn’t expecting to hear this today.
Customer came in and told me this morning. I was like damn Poconos going to be all over the news.
Got my drivers license nearby and the 2019 Pocono Marathon ran on that road. Crazy
I used to play soccer in the fields next to it. So fun hahah.
Did you see any white elantras?
All the time.. Drive by Major Hyundai every day :)
he had a white kia forte from what ive seen. it was towed from the parents house.
I heard just an hour ago on npr he is already processed for extradition.
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Same here.
I’m sure Snydersville loves that. Fall River, MA. still gets tourism from Lizzie Borden. Seriously, imagine being a small-town cop and suddenly having to guard a serial killer
I hung out with this guy in 6th grade at recess. Fucking crazy...
He looks like he has crazy eyes in the mugshot. Was he like that then?
Honestly I don't remember too much. It was a long time ago. I just remember he didn't have many friends before he had a massive weight loss. He used to be MUCH heavier.
That’s really interesting. A lot of people are calling out that he looks older than 28, but if he had dramatic weight loss that could be responsible for making his face appear more wrinkled/older than a typical 28 year old’s.
He lost what I would guess at least 100 lbs in high school, probably during puberty so that would have an effect.
Dang! Do you recall if he was bullied pre-weight loss?
Yes, but I didn't see it personally as I didn't have many friends then either (hence why I hung out with him xD). I do know people who graduated with us saying on FB that he was HEAVILY bullied before losing the weight.
That sucks. Kids and teenagers can be so cruel.
Someone else who he was in a friend group with said he flipped fairly swiftly, still in high school and became a bully himself so they distanced themselves.
Also this guy wanted to be a COP. Has a degree in criminal justice from ( I think ) LaSalle ) getting a doc in it at Washington.
It was DeSales in PA
Thank you! Brain freeze. Definitely knew that somewhere in my aging PA head.
Can you post where you have seen his interest in being a LEO.
I just tried to look up leo? Search occluded by zodiac information? 🤷 I'm not being snarky honest, just unfamiliar with what that would be?
If it's his interest in the career, I'll re- look for it? I ' think ' one of the more local ( as in Idaho based ) media sources, not national?
Interesting
The low-set ears and dead eyes of a cold blooded sociopath.
That's so crazy! Wonder what happened to him to make him so psychotic.
Just because he was arrested doesn't mean he's guilty.
They found his DNA at the scene, hard to fight that
I'll still wait to see it play out. It wouldn't be the 1st time they apprehended the wrong person.
Are u delusional? His car was near the crime scene, he was found hiding in Pennsylvania when he was supposed to be in school in Idaho, and how can they fake dna at the crime scene? Plus you add the fact he was a criminology student?
Am I delusional? No. Ever heard of Richard Jewl? Let's just say before he is found guilty in the public square he deserves his day in court like everyone does.
It’s possible he was romantic with one of the girls and was at the house earlier that day. Also possible he was in PA because most schools went remote in that area after the murders. I doubt the police made a mistake though. I would definitely bet on him being the killer.
Went to freaking high school with him
What do you remember about him?
Legit nothing. Don’t know a single thing abt him. Didn’t even remember I went to high school with him until this happened. I just saw ppl post his picture and was like oh shit i went to high school with him.
I went to NCC at the same time as him. I remember seeing him around all the time but had very little, if any interaction. I had pretty much the same reaction upon seeing his picture.
Holy shit. I was afraid this would never be solved.
hope more details emerge, such as motive
edit: knifing ppl is a pretty personal affair, did one of the girls reject him? the entire time following this on the news i’m just wondering what makes someone wanna knife an entire house full of people
He was getting in PhD in Criminology. Honestly a small part of me wonders if the idiot just thought he could get away with (mass) murder and went for it.
so sad for the victims and their families
we should put him in a deep ditch and fill it in with a bulldozer
Uhh shouldn't we wait for the evidence to be presented?
haha yeah ofc. i mean last i heard they’re saying “person of interest” so he hasn’t even been named a suspect yet, what im saying is if it’s obvious he did it, i don’t want to pay to house and feed him for 3 lifetimes, just shoot him in the head.
The only evidence right now they have is he drives a white Elantra which was spotted in the area. We have to wait for more details on what they're withholding
His DNA was at the crime scene.
You can’t fake DNA
Yes, it can. Depending on where they got the DNA, it could very well be the left over of a party.
Until more information comes out and there is a trail anything you say is hearsay and based on rumors. Especially with high profile cases.
Remember. Innocent before proven guilty.
There are so many factors that point to this guy. And probably much more that we don’t even know about. I trust law enforcement in this case. Four people were stabbed to death, there is much evidence against this person, it’s weird you are making a huge point to defend him
Im not defending him I'm saying wait until trail tf lmao.
Everyone's out here acting like internet sleuths and that shit can be detrimental to a person's image. They've already done it once with this case, with the "hooded guy".
Let the judicial system handle the case before being bickering nancies. Then you can talk shit.
Someone was arrested for a heinous murder with much evidence pointing to him…. And you expect people on Reddit not to talk about him? That’s a bit ridiculous. That would be a hell of a coincidence if it wasn’t him.
>Someone was arrested for a heinous murder with much evidence pointing to him
The point is that that evidence hasn't been disclosed.
What do you know? He drives an white Elantra ? And DNA evidence exists?
Do you know the specifics of the DNA evidence?
You're not the judge, leave it to the judicial system. Even the most sinister of criminals deserves due process.
Wait until the official press conference and verdict before jumping to conclusions. You don't know all the details of the case.
That is just plain naive and stupid to think that on Reddit of all places people wouldn’t comment on the suspected killer. Especially when the evidence given to the public is pretty strong. If that’s just what they give the public, just imagine what they aren’t telling us. They arrested him for a reason. But go ahead and keep defending murderers
YOU KEEP SAYING STRONG EVIDENCE.
But you can't explain the evidence. So until it's explained allow due process. All you've been saying is "there's evidence!" Yet you cannot explain that evidence. So wait until the evidence is explained before trash talking a random individual.
No I'm defending a person's right to innocent until proven guilty. You know, one of the core reasons our society is founded on. Just because you feel someone is guilty based on evidence gathered second hand through word of mouth and conspiracy theories. Doesn't mean that he is, until he's tried in court.
Is he likely the killer? Maybe. But until all the informations out all you're doing is saying conspiracy theorys .
So your saying no matter what people on Reddit and the internet can’t talk their shit about a supposed and probable killer? I’m not out there harrassing the man. Calm down
Criminology is more about the psychology of crime, not the details of how they are committed.
A sociopath studying criminal psychology. Creepy if true.
Most psychologists are bit sociopathic/psychopathic. You are literally analyzing peoples behavior and emotions in an attempt to understand them so that you can control them.
Why do murderers always run to the poconos
This guy is from the Poconos.
Where did he grow up? I thought he was from washington
He is from the West End area of Monroe County. He graduated (4 years below me and worked security at the HS after he graduated) from Pleasant Valley High School. Reports say he was studying for his PhD in Criminology from a college less than 10 miles away from the University of Idaho.
No shit
In addition to what the other posters said, he finished his masters in criminology at DeSales University (in the Lehigh Valley) earlier this year.
He was a grad student in Washington.
Yes but extremely close to Idaho like 10 miles away
Lol really? What other murderers have fled to the Poconos? That’s interesting
Less than 10 miles from where I live.
About the same distance for me maybe a little more. Can’t believe he ended up in our backyard.
Seriously.
Our local online paper is now saying he was arrested in the Indian Mountain Lakes development between routes 534 and 115 in Penn Forest/Tunkhannock townships both of which border mine.
I saw that one source is saying he was arrested in Scranton. Either way I’m glad they got him and are sending him back to be held accountable.
>he was brought to Scranton bc that's where the federal courthouse is so he can be extradited back to Idaho.
Thank you for clarifying. I was a bit confused when I saw that.
Less than 10 literal houses from where I live. Imagine my surprise. Crazy
Yeah, I bet.
2 AM this morning or whatever it was must've been interesting.
I've been home all day and didn't even find out until this afternoon. They must have been very quiet about the whole thing. I remember hearing helicopters flying around this morning and thinking it was odd. It took awhile before they announced which specific neighborhood they found him in. Strangely inside the neighborhood is very calm and the house in question is sitting empty. It's a gated neighborhood so the commotion is all outside the gate.
At first the national media was saying "Scranton" and suddenly that changed to Chestnuthill Twp.
Apparently he went to PV H.S. and graduated 2013 I think I heard.
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Hes going to be an example of criminal justice if he's guilty.
Some articles are saying he was arrested in Scranton. The one says Chestnuthill township, which makes sense since it's in Monroe County. I can't believe he was found here of all places.
I guess the national media doesn't know the difference between Scranton and the Poconos...
bc he was in scranton at the courthouse. he needed to be brought to the federal courthouse in order for the extradition process to start. the feds got him not local police.
Isn’t PA only made up of Philly, Pittsburg and Scranton? Other places exist? /s
What’s the difference. Going from left to right it’s Philly, Poconos, then Philly again probably.
He got his masters degree at Desales.. same college my girlfriend goes to.
I wonder what the motive was, this is such a wild story.
Rumor only - someone on the reddit true crime thread said the victims were followers of Bryan on Instagram or vice versa, if true, they were not strangers.
Can you message me the link to that thread?
I’m still sad for the deceased and their grieving families. Horrible to imagine the trauma that occurred.
Thankful that the police were able to identify and locate a suspect.
I can’t help it… it’s None of my business but I also wonder things like, did his family know he was capable of this? Did they sense something was terribly amiss? How did they deal with it? Did they fear for their own lives? Were they shocked? Did they get him in treatment? What did the therapist think? Did they think he did it when the murders were first reported in the news? Did they call the tip line? How in the world are they coping now (the parents and siblings)? What was family life like in this home? Was he someone who harmed animals? Is there more mental illness in this family? Was he gradually escalating? Did they feel it escalating? Did he love them? Was he incapable of love? What’s the whole story that led up to this?
Omg we were roommates I had no idea.
Please share more! What was he like?
Kind of a dick but respectable. Everytime he failed to clean up the bathroom or dishes id threaten to call the police and it shook him to his core. Paid on time and was quiet. Would rent a room to him again.
Why did you threaten to call the police for not doing dishes? Is that a joke?
Yeah basically. Whenever a roommate thought I was their mother who cleans stuff up for you because I love you quickly got a call to the authorities. They don't do anything but the threat of allowing police to enter the apartment because of our domestic abuse is enough to scare him to fix up his space. He had already paid me to shop for him and whatnot which waz weirdtl but hey i made an eztea $200 a month. His crypto wallet was full due to the couple of rug pulls he assisted with some popular twitch streamers to have enough spending cash to get around.
For legal reasons this is a joke.
Wait, you're threatening roommates with a call to the police alleging domestic abuse on their part toward you, because they don't clean up? Holy shit, you're a terrible human being.
Can't argue with results but once again this was all a fabrication.
Was this guy living in Idaho?
Nope, Washington state, but still less than 10 miles away
Thank you for helping me piece this together.
Do they have a motivation for the murders?
Not released yet
What's with high profile killers hiding in Monroe county?
It's really easy to get to but still very rural. It's perfect, when you really think about it. Right on I-80, close to several major international airports, not far from the Canadian border either. Great spot to hide out and easy to flee from if you need to.
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A friend of mine lives in the neighborhood and ended up being interviewed.
Right up the road from me. 4 miles, tops.
All are a bunch of idiots. Who cares if it's pnw or mmw or the pea and lentil capital, or the potato capital. Also, everyone knows the murders were in Moscow, ID. Not sure how Moscow, PA or Moscow Russia are confusing people? There is a Moscow, ME, does that add to your confusion?🤷♀️
Is the rudeness necessary? The crime was in Moscow ID and the suspect is in jail in Monroe County PA. There’s also a Moscow PA. Yes, it can be confusing to some.
I think mostly the confusion is because a lot of people don't seem to know their geography. They seem to think Idaho isn't near Washington.
Agreed. There is always Google maps to assist with those that failed Geography.
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So did this guy go to college while physically present in Pennsylvania?
Huh? He finished his masters at Desales in 2022 and then moved to and started school in Washington this year. He is from PA, so yes I’m pretty sure he was in PA during that time.
Oh, the blurb I read didn’t say he was from PA.
He deserves the worst possible punishment if he is guilty . Taking 4 young innocent lives for nothing 😡😡😡😢🥲
I thought he was picked up in Scranton, which would be Lackawanna County.
Still waiting on some evidence. They have his car near there but he went to grad school and it was a party house? Also no weapon found?
The dude went on a cross country road trip. He could have dropped the weapon in a million different spots.
IF he is convicted this POS should be publicly hung…
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Currently in Monroe County jail in Snydersville. Can't believe he is 5 miles from where I'm sitting..