HugeRaspberry t1_j2jfylc wrote on January 1, 2023 at 8:07 PM

Reply to comment by defusted in You can make a difference in promoting democracy in Pennsylvania by hashtagbob60

The electoral college actually works very well at doing just what it was designed to do. Balance power between states and make sure that each state has a proportional representation in selecting a president

What’s broke is the two party system that decides the best path to the magic number. The two party system ensures that some states are never going to matter in a presidential election because they don’t have enough votes to make a difference

defusted t1_j2jhypt wrote on January 1, 2023 at 8:19 PM

The electoral college is horse shit. It was created so bigger states with far fewer people like Virginia wouldn't get over ruled by smaller states like new York even though new York has way more people. We should be doing this by majority rules. If we actually went by the will of majority of people in this country then the last Republican presidents term would have ended 30 years ago.

Ajaws24142822 t1_j2ka0le wrote on January 1, 2023 at 11:28 PM

Even as a democrat voter, majority rules is a terrible fucking idea and a direct democracy is a horrible idea. The people who founded the US set up the electoral college specifically as a check to ensure that certain states didn’t control the elections of the entire country. What affects the 49% is as important as what affects the 51%, an avoidance of the tyranny of the majority is important and they specifically designed our electoral process to ensure that everyone is represented.

The electoral college being in place was initially what allowed minorities to have an actual voice in the United States when it came to voting. It meant that majority white regions of the country couldn’t completely be dwarfed by larger white populations, the same generally goes for districting states rather than just having two representatives and two senators.

We added more representatives to the states to represent smaller populations. Someone is always gonna lose an election, but our entire electoral process ensures that everyone’s voice is ultimately heard.

If we go majority rules, than 51% of the country basically controls the federal government and the presidency and there is no room for the other 49% to hold any level of power.

The liberals of the time knew majority rules was a really terrible fucking idea for the ENTIRE US and it remains a really terrible fucking idea. Small scale? Sure it works for districts and even states, but on a federal level without the electoral college a massive population of the US wouldn’t even try to vote because it would be pointless.

It’s a really good way to turn us into a one-party state, and even if that party is my party I don’t like that at all.

DamonRunnon t1_j2l751q wrote on January 2, 2023 at 3:36 AM

But "proportional" representation isn't really "proportional" in this country.

defusted t1_j2kdjx2 wrote on January 1, 2023 at 11:53 PM

And yet certain states DO control the elections of the entire county. It's almost like the system doesn't work at all.

Ajaws24142822 t1_j2kf4e6 wrote on January 2, 2023 at 12:03 AM

lol the system literally does work and people who think it doesn’t are coping. Primarily, all those dumbfucks who assaulted the capital building when they didn’t get a result they liked. Idk if you noticed but it’s working, more often than not our systems work.

PA has a good representative and a good governor, the people spoke. Same goes with the presidency. The people wanted something different, it didn’t work out, they brought Brandon in.

The only time our system didn’t work was when Woodrow Wilson was elected, because two candidates 60% of the country liked split that vote in half and Wilson won with less than 50% of both the popular and electoral college.

And he was the worst president we have ever had, and it’s not close.

BorisTheMansplainer t1_j2k68mh wrote on January 1, 2023 at 11:02 PM

The Senate does this. And the house does, as well, if you compare reps per capita between California and Wyoming, for example. Why do rural states need even more voting power in the executive branch, as well?