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artificialavocado t1_j2sqmv4 wrote

This time it will go to the road fund we promise.

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Gettheinfo2theppl t1_j2wl2ds wrote

You guys ever see the video for the roads built with led panels? They heat up the road, allow water to drain through, use solar power to run, and will have road lines that are well lit. I always dream about that future. If only we could choose how our own taxes are spent.

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artificialavocado t1_j2wnv4h wrote

Futuristic infrastructure? Nah that’s not nearly as profitable for the donor class. We needed a trillion dollar fighter jet program instead.

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cpr4life8 t1_j2silet wrote

Thank you Republican Tom Corbett.

/s

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Overall_Ad_8302 t1_j2sn5cl wrote

Shapiro wants to get rid of the gas tax

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Independent-Drive-18 t1_j2sqkso wrote

And tax miles driven instead.

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NEBook_Worm t1_j3cvvp9 wrote

Which is ridiculous. Especially with WFH. Disaster waiting to fail.

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pm_your_masterpiece t1_j2tizdv wrote

that's the dumbest. they should tax the tires, that would help curb street takeovers

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upghr5187 t1_j2tky42 wrote

And incentivize people to drive on bare tires

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pm_your_masterpiece t1_j2tlj6f wrote

they already do, it's why there are so many crashes in the rain. the benefit of taxing tires is that most of the tax burden falls on tires for heavy vehicles, like tractor trailers. The tax on tires for a Prius wouldn't be much

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Independent-Drive-18 t1_j2toju9 wrote

EVs are why they want to tax miles driven.

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IrrumaboMalum t1_j2uv4ky wrote

As an example only - I live in Pennsylvania, obviously. But I often do field work outside of the state. I once worked for 3 1/2 months in Georgia, and put over 12,000 miles on the vehicle during that assignment - pretty much all of it outside of Pennsylvania.

Yet by taxing miles, I'd be taxed for all 12,000+ of it even though most of it was not in Pennsylvania. This is not exactly a good solution either.

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Independent-Drive-18 t1_j2v3h4x wrote

I know. It's a bad idea. Drivers like you will be put out of business.

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IrrumaboMalum t1_j2v416y wrote

Thankfully that particular work trip was the exception and not the rule. And we usually drive rentals for work trips.

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pm_your_masterpiece t1_j2tq8aj wrote

I understand that, but taxing tires takes care of that just the same. I don't want to have to pay for a lump sum mileage tax on top of paying for another service during inspections.

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Independent-Drive-18 t1_j2u87nm wrote

Don't worry, they'll be taxed sooner or later. The Feds have hidden taxes on everything. The new gov has promised to raise taxes so maybe your wish will come true sooner then later.

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MrSchaudenfreude t1_j2uwxp7 wrote

Absolutely, everyone forgets 2012

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cpr4life8 t1_j2uz5c6 wrote

I looked this up because I'm not a native of PA and have only been living here since 2016. So when a friend of mine brought this up a few days ago and I asked him how long that's been he said that it only passed 5 or 6 years ago...so I was wondering why I had never heard of it. Sure enough my Republican friend simply did not want to admit that it was a Republican governor who signed this into law.

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MrSchaudenfreude t1_j2vdk3w wrote

You want to see something interesting about PA. Look up who controlled the state house, the state senate and the governors office, for the past 30 years. Look at how many trifectas each party had and for how long. Trifecta being the party controls all 3. When your republican friend carrys on about how they don't like how PA is running, or it's laws you will know why.

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cpr4life8 t1_j2wl61r wrote

I'm pretty up to speed on it as I moved here a few months before the November elections in 2016 but I hadn't heard of the gas tax law until he mentioned it...so knowing his politics I had to look 😆

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RipTide275 t1_j2sv9p1 wrote

That guy from 9 years ago. Cmon. Lol

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cpr4life8 t1_j2svi4n wrote

https://www.ydr.com/story/news/local/2022/12/27/pennsylvanias-gas-tax-increasing-in-2023/69750209007/

"Why is the gas tax increasing? The increase is mandated by Act 89, which was passed by the General Assembly and signed into law by Gov. Tom Corbett, a decade ago, according to PennDOT."

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RipTide275 t1_j2t0v40 wrote

First of all, there was bipartisan support so both parties were in favor of the tax when it was passed. Second, did you read the article, the increase was triggered by higher wholesale prices. Thank your boy Biden for that. Good day

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cpr4life8 t1_j2t1tfq wrote

The law was signed 10 years ago what the fuck did Biden have to do with Pennsylvania increasing their gas tax 10 years ago?

Holy fuck I've seen stupid before...but you've achieved a level like no other!

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RipTide275 t1_j2t7ff8 wrote

you obviously didn’t read the article you posted, nor my explanation. Or maybe it is beyond your comprehension level. I’ll try again in one sentence. The increase in gas tax is caused by the higher wholesale gas prices, this is the first year the taxes ever increased.

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Minute_Helicopter_91 t1_j2tcavw wrote

This isn’t the first year the gas tax has increased. Biden has 0 to do with this.

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RipTide275 t1_j2tfmdp wrote

This is the first time that this has happened since the law went into effect," said Alexis Campbell, a spokeswoman for PennDOT.

The spokeswoman from Penndot disagrees with you.

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Minute_Helicopter_91 t1_j2tgcgb wrote

https://www.pennlive.com/news/2016/12/get_ready_for_another_gas_tax.html

3 times the gas tax has gone up prior to this last one.

And apparently, you glossed over the most important part of the article as to why it’s going up this year:

A provision in the law sets the "floor" of the wholesale gas price at $2.99, PennDOT says. If the price remains above this level for 12 months, the fuel tax rate increases. The average wholesale price is now $3.17.

So total, the gas tax has increased 4 times.

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NEBook_Worm t1_j3cw8kq wrote

Reddit doesn't care about truth. Got people in here blaming republicans for gas taxes in a state run by democrats for a decade. It's the reddit agenda.

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axeville t1_j2ssmgh wrote

How much is the tax on shale gas extraction? In other energy rich states the cost of fuel is wildly lower. Texas is 2.50-2.75 gallon today.

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Galactus54 t1_j2vlibm wrote

Suppose the average car gets 20 mpg and drives 12,000 miles last year, the 8,352,000 passenger vehicles in PA created 48 Million tons of CO2, a small but significant fraction of the 3.3 Gigaton carbon increase in the atmosphere each year- the tax increase is beneficial in that it may influence us to drive less or go electric.

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106473 OP t1_j2xk4nl wrote

Till you realize that cobalt comes from the Congo and and mined pretty much by slave labor.

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Gettheinfo2theppl t1_j2wlfuh wrote

No! It will cause profits for corporations to go down meaning it's bad for all us Pennsylvanian! /s

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drunkmonkey176 t1_j3r4d1q wrote

Funny how republicans always admit it costs more to pave the roads every year, but somehow living doesn't ever cost anymore.

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