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Raam57 t1_j46xjie wrote

That commute is pretty average for someone in PA. I mean people choose where they live. How exactly would you realistically get people back to “pre-war living patterns”

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69FunnyNumberGuy420 t1_j46xssx wrote

I haven't driven to work in over a decade and my life is way better for it. Driving is a fucking chore.

 

You'd return to pre-war living patterns via high density housing, public transit, and clustering residences around business and commercial areas. Look at any pre-car small town in rural Pennsylvania.

 
The current status quo where people live an hour from where they work in an artificial country estate is unsustainable and the sooner we end it, the better.
 
The fun thing about threads like this is reading posts from people who choose to live 40 miles from their job cry about how they have to pay to fill their 12mpg gas guzzler. No one is forcing them to live that way but they think that everyone else should pay their way.

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IrrumaboMalum t1_j49txkj wrote

>The fun thing about threads like this is reading posts from people who choose to live 40 miles from their job cry about how they have to pay to fill their 12mpg gas guzzler. No one is forcing them to live that way but they think that everyone else should pay their way.

I didn’t “choose” to live where I am. I cannot afford to live a convenient distance from work because the cost-of-living in Cranberry is so high, so I live in the city (where I can afford to live) and commute.

I wish I could live walking distance from work, but that is not realistic for me. So I live where I can afford to live. That is part of why people commute so far - they get decent paying jobs in Area A, but the jobs don’t quite pay enough to live in Area A. So they live in Area C or D, where their pay from Area A allows them to live a decent life, and then commute to Area A for work.

I don’t think you have a very firm grasp on the real world or how people interact with it.

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69FunnyNumberGuy420 t1_j49vimi wrote

Today I learned that the only jobs to be had are in Cranberry.

 
Living far away from your job is a choice.

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IrrumaboMalum t1_j4a5y83 wrote

No, it’s not.

It sounds like you’re either independently wealthy or a rich kid who doesn’t need to worry about balancing income to cost of living and, as such, can afford to live at a loss.

The rest of us can’t.

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69FunnyNumberGuy420 t1_j4c6r1q wrote

You're aware that downtown Pittsburgh is the second largest concentration of jobs in the state, with Oakland representing #3, right?
 
If you're driving out to Butler County from the city every day for a job, you are doing that by choice, not because there are no other options. You have chosen to take a job so far from where you live and you choose to drive 50 miles a day.

 
Building society around supporting the poor choices is a recipe for failure. As we can see with the current state of carcentric development, sprawl, pollution, etc.
 
People who choose to drive fifty miles a day when alternatives exist get zero sympathy from me when they complain about how expensive the life they've chosen is.
 
> It sounds like you’re either independently wealthy or a rich kid who doesn’t need to worry about balancing income to cost of living

 
There are neighborhoods on public transit lines in the city with median house costs under $200K, "everyone who isn't commuting 50 miles a day like me must be rich" is a lie you tell yourself to feel better about your choices.

 
According to your post history, you own a lot of guns. Guns are expensive. If you bought fewer toys and lived within your means you wouldn't have to commute fifty miles a day.

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IrrumaboMalum t1_j4kqp5z wrote

Let's put a huge industrial construction facility that builds I&C systems right in the middle of Downtown. Sounds great.

You're an entitled self-important little pissant who thinks he is better than everyone else, and it is tiring. Must be nice living off of mommy and daddy for life while the rest of us have to work for a living.

Not all of us are lucky enough to be born with a silver spoon shoved up our asses.

Get bent kid. And get blocked.

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