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obsolete-man t1_j6e64d0 wrote

I'm all for universal childhood education, but your childcare is your responsibility not society's.

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WhiskeyandScars t1_j6e90l0 wrote

Fun fact, education starts at birth. In the infant and one year old classrooms at daycare centers they have lesson plans and do educational activities with the babies. Things get progressively more academic from age 2. There are educational requirements for daycare centers.

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drxdrg08 t1_j6eudbm wrote

Do you think there is correlation between poor parenting and not being able to afford kids?

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WhiskeyandScars t1_j6ex7pe wrote

No. I've seen horrible parents at all income levels. Though at both ends of the income spectrum you start to see a parental disconnect. With both extremes parents are prioritizing something over the kids, where quality time is concerned. Lower income parents miss out from necessity to work multiple jobs to pay bills. The higher income families often went away and the kids had babysitters or they were also tied up in work because they value work more.

This is just my personal opinion and feeling from working in early childhood education.

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drxdrg08 t1_j6f2kie wrote

> I've seen horrible parents at all income levels.

Equally distributed?

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WhiskeyandScars t1_j6f8wxx wrote

I can't really say from a day care employee point of view. My experiences employed by a daycare were limited to one center in a predominately low income area. I covered at a center in a higher income area, but was not there long enough to get a feel for the families.

As an aside, I moonlight as a face painter. From working birthday parties and community events, yes, horrible parents are pretty equally distributed.

TBH, I see more honest family interaction when I'm face painting than I did as a daycare employee.

Edit for clarification.

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Existing-Papaya-8643 OP t1_j6e6tzu wrote

Thank you for your opinion, obsolete man :)

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cuppa_tea_4_me t1_j6f4wkq wrote

You want people to pay extra so you can not work and you have the gall to get mad at them when they say no?

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-js23 t1_j6eur5e wrote

IKR, all the poor should die in a ditch from treatable diseases if they can’t pay, no free lunches in the gReAtIsT cOuNtRy iN tEh wOrlD!

Obvious /s

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obsolete-man t1_j6f87zp wrote

You're putting words in my mouth.

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-js23 t1_j6fcrco wrote

Am I though? If it isn’t “society’s responsibility” to provide assistance, then what else is going to happen?

Besides, what I said is based in reality, Americans are literally dying RIGHT NOW because they can’t afford to go to the doctor because of the mind numbingly stupid joke that is our healthcare system is.

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obsolete-man t1_j6i4esa wrote

I would hardly put universal daycare in the same category as universal healthcare, which is something that I do support.

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defusted t1_j6ej7ya wrote

Well, you're an asshole. I have no kids but I'm still all for things like this and paying taxes for better schools because I don't want to be surrounded by morons like you. Making schools and daycare better is how you do that

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cabinetsnotnow t1_j6fazgr wrote

To be frank, I already pay over $4,000 per year for school taxes and obviously that amount will always gradually increase over time. It's not reasonable to expect others to just keep forking out more and more of their income for parents and kids. People without kids who are struggling financially and go without food and housing usually have an impossible time getting help from the government already. While people with kids just keep getting more help. At what point does it end?

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defusted t1_j6ffhpv wrote

Should a person without a car pay for roads?

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KindKill267 t1_j6fnmgw wrote

If you're not registering a car or buying gas you're probably not.

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defusted t1_j6fqg6g wrote

The taxes you pay to the state goes to building and maintaining roads. You're definitely paying for the roads.

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KindKill267 t1_j6fu3ls wrote

Penndot is the road state agency, the bulk of their funding comes from gas taxes and federal funding.

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cabinetsnotnow t1_j6kkewg wrote

I'm not saying that I shouldn't pay any school taxes. Educated kids become educated adults who go into society, so I get why paying for education is important.

What I'm saying is that I don't think I should be expected to keep paying for more and more expenses that should fall on parents who chose to have kids. If the problem is that daycares are overcharging parents for their services, then do something about that. Taxpayers picking up the tab should not be the default solution to everything.

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obsolete-man t1_j6emn2n wrote

I'll give your opinion the full consideration that it's due. If someone wants society to be responsible for the day-to-day care of their child, they should just surrender it to the State. Daycare is not education: https://1851franchise.com/lightbridgeacademy/understanding-the-difference-between-daycare-and-educational-child-care-2703161#stories

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WhiskeyandScars t1_j6enpid wrote

Lightbridge is a daycare.

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WhiskeyandScars t1_j6eo5xk wrote

The link is to a page promoting a business. It is not any sort of actual educational resource or state/government definition of what a daycare is.

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obsolete-man t1_j6eqr80 wrote

Exactly, my point. It's a daycare center telling you flat out that it's not the same as preschool.

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WhiskeyandScars t1_j6eskx2 wrote

From the link "Lightbridge Academy explains why daycare and their educational child care program are simply not the same thing."

Lightbridge is claiming they are more than a daycare.

Licenced day care centers have educational requirements to meet. There are even some that offer more intensive programs and kindergarten.

Lightbridge is a daycare.

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