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barsoapguy t1_j9317y5 wrote

It would mean I would no longer have to literally step over high as a kite junkies to catch a bus.

In my book that’s a good thing and then THEY get a shot at getting back on their feet .

They MUST be controlled because they cannot control themselves.


vegemouse t1_j931i30 wrote

Yeah, I’m sure you have to regularly do that. You just sound like a dramatic pissbaby because you have to see homeless people. But yeah just throw them all in jail forever that will solve the underlying problems.


barsoapguy t1_j931xzd wrote

In an ideal world we would have long term humane mental institutions but currently we do not.

We are part of society WE set standards. I don’t think it’s too much to ask that if people are going to be out and about that they not be walking around with their pants at their ankles in broad daylight at the bus center with children around.I have literally seen it over there.

If these folks are going to utilize the public transportation system that we the tax payer fund then standards of behavior SHOULD be enforced.

These folks cannot get it together on their own, WE as society have to be the ones to set the rules for them.


vegemouse t1_j933b52 wrote

Sounds like you’ve never been homeless or talked to a homeless person. You’re assuming all homeless people are either on drugs or have mental health issues, which isn’t the case. And even if it were, throwing them in jail would do absolutely nothing except make it harder for them to find employment in the future. They’ve tried it in multiple places, and has never done anything to reduce homelessness. It basically just reinforces homeless and traps people in a cycle of poverty, mental health problems, or possibly further addiction. What you’re suggesting isn’t about solving the problem, it’s about punishing homeless people for simply not having a home.

Homeless people are members of society just like people who have homes. Look at the price of homes or apartments compared to the minimum wage, and tell me everyone that can’t afford a place to stay is just a drug addict.


barsoapguy t1_j9351fx wrote

You do understand that even if a person did have a home, getting so blasted out of your mind that you’re wandering around pissing yourself or just wearing undies would STILL be unacceptable right ?


vegemouse t1_j935gj9 wrote

You realize that housing first initiatives are one of the most successful methods of reducing homelessness that has been tried, right? People are significantly less likely to do drugs when provided with housing. There is actual data for this.

“Research shows that once a person has been stabilized in housing, they are much more successful in addressing the issues that caused them to become homeless in the first place.

In fact, given an adequate supply of affordable housing and appropriate support, research has shown that more than 90% of those who experience homelessness each year ultimately achieve self-sufficiency and never become homeless again.”

“Housing First programs also lead to reduced hospitalization and use of emergency health departments by people experiencing homelessness. A 2021 study found that Housing First programs decreased homelessness by 88% and improved housing stability by 41%, compared to Treatment First programs.”


barsoapguy t1_j935qch wrote

There are different types of homeless out there ..

You or I without mental health or addiction issues could almost instantly be assisted with low cost housing and our problems solved.

I doubt it’s so easy for an addict.


vegemouse t1_j936c9b wrote

For 90% of all homeless people, including people with addiction, it is successful.