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spokchewy t1_jdcfd9m wrote

Reply to comment by heloguy1234 in Pawtucket hits brakes on public borrowing for soccer stadium amid financial headwinds by Rogue-Island-Pirate

Nah, just 69k for the Revs opener in Charlotte the other day. https://amp.charlotteobserver.com/sports/charlotte-fc/article272605007.html

And definitely don’t look at what’s happening in St Louis https://fox2now.com/sports/stl-city-sc/sold-out-crowd-incredible-atmosphere-sparks-st-louis-city-sc-in-home-opener/amp/

Or Atlanta, Nashville, Minnesota, and even in New England, where the avg attendance is over 20k and they sold more season tickets for this season than ever before.

Pay no attention to the upcoming 2026 World Cup either.

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heloguy1234 t1_jdcfx5u wrote

Take a look at MLB’s attendance numbers, now take a look at Paw Sox’s numbers. You think soccer is more popular than baseball? None of those places are RI and no one in New England, save a couple of hipster dipshits, cares about soccer or the 2026 World Cup.

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spokchewy t1_jdcgdy5 wrote

Sitting around 3 hours with barely any gameplay and singing god bless America between innings? Yeah that’s surely a recipe for success.

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heloguy1234 t1_jdcgu46 wrote

Baseball makes piles of cash every year. Where do you think it comes from? Soccer doesn’t make shit in the US.

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spokchewy t1_jdcj4tm wrote

https://www.forbes.com/sites/justinbirnbaum/2023/02/02/major-league-soccers-most-valuable-clubs-2023-lafc-is-the-first-billion-dollar-franchise/?sh=3ed47cf75324

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heloguy1234 t1_jdckz6u wrote

Yeah, because the LA market and the Pawtucket market are comparable. Why don’t you just post some articles about European markets? They’d be just as relevant.

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spokchewy t1_jdcsblq wrote

You literally said “soccer doesn’t make shit in the US”. Last I knew, LA is in the US.

Why are the markets not comparable?

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heloguy1234 t1_jdczxtr wrote

I refuse to believe that even a soccer fan could be such a mook that they can’t see the difference between the 2 markets.

If you actually read that article and understood what they were talking about you’d understand that that team is valued at 1 billion which doesn’t mean shit. Twitter was valued at 44 billion whe Elon bought it but makes next to no money. That team makes 8 million/year in profit according to the article and no one would pay 1 billion for it unless they had billions to throw away on a shitty investment with nearly 0 returns.

The good news for you and the dozens of fans you’ll be sharing the new stadium with is that you should be able to get really good seats for the couple years it’s open.

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spokchewy t1_jdd32m4 wrote

Why are the fans in LA different than the fans in RI, in your opinion? Really interested in your honest answer to this question.

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heloguy1234 t1_jdd6wo1 wrote

The fans, what the fuck are you talking about? You understand that the fans and the market are completely different things, yeah?

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spokchewy t1_jdde9nm wrote

Not really, dude. A market is made up of customers; in the case of sports, those customers are… drum roll… fans?

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heloguy1234 t1_jddh0sn wrote

This is a stupid comment and I hope it was made in bad faith because I have trouble believing anyone could be so clueless.

You’re not a baseball fan, right? Have you ever been to a Paw Sox game? How about a Red Sox game? Probably. Plenty of people in a market go to events that they are not really fans of. Do you understand now or do I need to dumb it down a little more?

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spokchewy t1_jddhyvh wrote

“In marketing, the term market refers to the group of consumers or organizations that is interested in the product, has the resources to purchase the product, and is permitted by law and other regulations to acquire the product.”

http://www.netmba.com/marketing/market/definition/

I think what you describe about baseball is exactly the problem. Most people don’t give two shits about the game, they just want to get drunk. Same with American football.

I’ve been to tons of baseball games. I grew up watching the PawSox in Pawtucket. I’ve been to World Series games at Fenway park. I know it’s a sport that is struggling to hold the attention of Americans - too long, too many games, too much nationalistic virtue signaling and fake patriotism.

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majoroutage t1_jddu6gl wrote

This all just keep circling back to the point of "if it's such a good idea, why can't they find the money? Why do they need to steal ours?"

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spokchewy t1_jddunw8 wrote

Because it’s also an investment in the community that will be attractive to a large segment of the population. You can think whatever you want about that angle, and only time will tell if it plays out true or not, as is the case with all large scale urban investments that are often partially funded with tax dollars.

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majoroutage t1_jddv9mf wrote

One that was never put up for vote after we already voted no on keeping the pawsox. They knew it wouldn't pass. Now surprised pikachu it would cost more than we were told.

This is a bad deal. One we don't want but has at least partially been forced on us anyway, and just went south.

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heloguy1234 t1_jdeds88 wrote

Do you even live in Pawtucket? Of course you don’t. You’re happy to gamble away our money on this foolish venture though.

You’re literally the only person responding to this post that thinks it’s a good idea. Where are all the other people that think this will work?

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spokchewy t1_jdf1ial wrote

When you are in an echo chamber, you are in an echo chamber. Not much else to say about that.

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spokchewy t1_je4hu17 wrote

What’s wrong with a defensive battle? They can be really exciting. Maybe the goalies put on a show, maybe the woodwork is hit multiple times. Regardless, there were 38 goals in MLS last Saturday so if you really need goals, there are plenty. And, the games are over in under 2 hours and there are no commercial breaks aside from halftime.

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