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Wide_Television_7074 t1_iua9awg wrote

because it’s essential in many places to survive.

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Status_Silver_5114 t1_iuacp5p wrote

It should be discounted if electric. In this day and age. Otherwise tax away.

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Wide_Television_7074 t1_iubtdth wrote

picking winners and losers, never makes sense. Also, advocating for higher taxes eh? Weird…

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Status_Silver_5114 t1_iud25hq wrote

Yes I think paying taxes is a common good. Do I think something that is fueling global warming should cost more? Yes yes I do.

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Wide_Television_7074 t1_iue10s3 wrote

taxation is theft.

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Status_Silver_5114 t1_iue3b2d wrote

It’s the basis for a working functional society. Go live in Yemen if you want to see how that works. Or Kabul. That’s some libertarian BS that you’re sharing right there.

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Wide_Television_7074 t1_iufan93 wrote

the reason why Americans can’t retire at 60 is because the government takes too much. 10%, sure I’ll pay that — but 40%? That’s obnoxious.

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Status_Silver_5114 t1_iufavld wrote

It’s cause we don’t pay a living wage and don’t have national healthcare and a social safety net but go on….. also retire at 60? Gimme a break. Reddit brings out the libertarians doesn’t it

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Wide_Television_7074 t1_iuffp11 wrote

yes, I’d like to work my ass off from 22 to 60, and retire and enjoy the fruits of my labor — is that bad? I don’t understand your answer… we tax a lot because we don’t have those programs? I don’t get your point

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Status_Silver_5114 t1_iufgkd6 wrote

No modern country has a retirement age that young that’s an unrealistic pipe dream. Also worth pointing out the European countries that have retirement ages more to your liking have high tax rates. If you want an earlier retirement age, fund the social safety net through (you guessed it) taxes!

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Wide_Television_7074 t1_iug5k4p wrote

no, I’d rather keep my money and invest wisely for myself without government encroachment — Government is never the solution.

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Status_Silver_5114 t1_iuhcvga wrote

Ok so when you retire you’ll be returning your social security checks? And not checking NOAA weather forecasts? Or using the federally funded highways? Etc etc? Gotcha.

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Wide_Television_7074 t1_iujb5rv wrote

Im forced to pay into it, damn straight I’m taking the distributions, but I’d rather it not exist at all. People need to be responsible with their own money. Some states done have state income tax and their roads are in better shape than those that do!

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Status_Silver_5114 t1_iujc4tc wrote

So you don't like it but you'll take it. Noted. Point made.

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Wide_Television_7074 t1_iujes1f wrote

no employee has an option — everyone pays into social security without option

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Status_Silver_5114 t1_iujf022 wrote

No but you could not cash your check if you really wanted to walk the walk - or at least suspend taking it until 70 - but gotcha / libertarian blow hard aka FU and yours unless it’s about me and mine. Noted.

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