AbigailFlippinfloppn OP t1_itg6iqt wrote on October 23, 2022 at 12:20 PM

Reply to comment by Unique-Public-8594 in Why doesn't the state build housing? by AbigailFlippinfloppn

Liberalism, ie free market ideology. The idea that the government should stay out of the economy.

Energeticlemon t1_itgni8y wrote on October 23, 2022 at 2:44 PM

Sorry that you’re getting down voted even though you’re technically right. Colloquially people use the terms wrong.

Unique-Public-8594 t1_itg7ji5 wrote on October 23, 2022 at 12:30 PM

smh

FourAM t1_itgi93d wrote on October 23, 2022 at 2:05 PM

That would be “Libertarianism”, not “Liberalism”.

Two WILDLY different things.

“Liberalism” believes that the government should serve and protect people, programs such as the housing suggestion you made should exist; anti-trust should be enforced, rights should be protected and enhanced when necessary.

“Libertarianism” is “privatize everything”, eliminate any taxes and regulations, and let the free market sort it out.

Energeticlemon t1_itgo22e wrote on October 23, 2022 at 2:48 PM

That’s not true. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

FourAM t1_itgoo4c wrote on October 23, 2022 at 2:53 PM

Literally the first paragraph:

> Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed and equality before the law.[1][2][3]

lazydictionary t1_ithexj9 wrote on October 23, 2022 at 5:52 PM

OP stated that liberals are against government intervention in the economy.

What you highlighted is completed unrelated.

FourAM t1_ithg606 wrote on October 23, 2022 at 6:00 PM

I think in a case like housing, economics are a secondary consideration to the social and humanitarian aspect of making sure people can get a roof over their head and participate in the rest of society. While that has effects on the economy, it isn’t the primary reasoning for doing it.

Liberals would generally frown upon direct government intervention except in emergency situations (like bailouts)

lazydictionary t1_ithhxuy wrote on October 23, 2022 at 6:11 PM

OP literally stated their own definition and it's all about state intervention in the economy.

Seeing as housing is one of the largest sectors of the economy and personal wealth, I would say it's a huge economic intervention to provide cheaper housing.

Liberals not wanting to provide that much housing is for the reasons you stated - they don't want to interfere. They only give a shit about the appearance of social liberalism, they don't actually want to change people's material conditions.