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degggendorf t1_iu5c9a2 wrote
I haven't really been paying attention, but it looks like it might not be completely fabricated: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-21/heating-oil-being-rationed-in-us-northeast-before-winter-starts
Wide_Television_7074 t1_iu7u4xw wrote
not true. venders in the mid-A and southeast are short supply and breaking contracts.
mittynuke t1_iu7tb6e wrote
I’ve heard this on multiple news platforms so I don’t think it’s BS. Our wonderful federal government will soon stop pulling from the strategic petroleum reserves as soon as the midterm elections happen, for just one factor. And the weather is quickly cooling off.
coolstoryglenn t1_iu54cqu wrote
It’s not BS, if you follow the energy industry there have been predictions of a heating oil shortage since the summer.
bambooboi t1_iu6feak wrote
WSJ has also intimated it as a possibility for New England, specifically. Unlikely, but a possibility.
Voyager977 t1_iu8djt7 wrote
Right, there’s the problem. WSJ and NPR run a story and people panic off the headlines. New England generates less than 1% of its electricity from oil so no major issue there. LNG may be slightly impacted if a major storm impacts the region for shipping offloads or truck deliveries. As to allegations about vendors in the US Southeast, take a look at the numbers for home heating oil use in that region and then ask if there is a real issue.
Predictions have been just that, some are close to legit, others are clickbait profit drivers. Could we be impacted by a shortfall this winter, sure, the future is uncertain. Will we, impossible to say. Ask friends and relatives for recommendations, fill up early and bundle up. Also, don’t forget there are resources for folks in need.
Quick_Fennel_3244 t1_iu6iksd wrote
Yeah right. If there is they are not letting us know that and are holding it.
Frequent_Ad_7824 OP t1_iui7wpm wrote
Would you want to get some cash on that
UncleJimmee t1_iu4tm7b wrote
try a different oil co? https://www.newenglandoil.com/rhodeisland/zone4.asp?x=0
Mortal-Cynical-42 t1_iu598gm wrote
This website is the best
UncleJimmee t1_iu59f7a wrote
thanks
bosmacks t1_iu4kuny wrote
Which oil company told you this?
Frequent_Ad_7824 OP t1_iu4o5dr wrote
Guardian. But it was also on the news this am
mittynuke t1_iu7tfoc wrote
Why are people downvoting you for simply answering the question?
radioflea t1_iu8w1oa wrote
Trolls have invaded this sub.
edthesmokebeard t1_iu96jz0 wrote
Welcome to Reddit.
Frequent_Ad_7824 OP t1_iu8q0ja wrote
Who knows lol
slimsady2 t1_iu4h7lo wrote
Sweet. So on top of probably not being able to afford home heating oil, we're not going to get as much as we need?
Are they actively trying to kill people for profit?
Wilkey88 t1_iu4hv53 wrote
Yes.
Frequent_Ad_7824 OP t1_iu54ymy wrote
Unfortunately for us pheasants yes
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RIChowderIsBest t1_iu575zm wrote
There’s a lot of chirping about oil prices this winter.
Dependent-Meet-8022 t1_iu7h61o wrote
Might I suggest installing a few skylights. Better pheasant under glass than cold turkey, I say.
MuffinMobile643 t1_iu893xp wrote
Pigeons checking in here. I can say oil companies are trying to kill us too.
continue_Banca_3223 t1_iu58jtv wrote
Exactly! There is rude awaking coming...
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Setting-Either t1_iu7niqn wrote
22 days of diesel reserve left in US
Frequent_Ad_7824 OP t1_iu8q5ib wrote
Yup and each day. It’s gonna get worse
canibringmydog t1_iu4bkh4 wrote
Did they hike the price up anymore than it already is?
nibbleswoodaway4prez t1_iu4mouf wrote
What oil company said this?
Frequent_Ad_7824 OP t1_iu4oa17 wrote
Guardian
nibbleswoodaway4prez t1_iu4paa3 wrote
In Westerly?
JackpotJooser t1_iuasb7c wrote
I’m going to a party tonight!! 😊
nibbleswoodaway4prez t1_iuats4x wrote
… okay? 🤨
SelectStarFromNames t1_iu58n0j wrote
I wouldn't take an oil company's word for it but it does seem to be backed up by credible sources too https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-21/heating-oil-being-rationed-in-us-northeast-before-winter-starts
Parking_Brilliant842 t1_iu73k32 wrote
Your local oil companies work off fairly small margins, especially after taxes, insurance, transportation and truck repairs. The average Rhode Island local oil company operates on a net margin of 25 to 30 cents a gallon. The average residential customer in Rhode Island burns approximately 600 gallons of heating oil. So most companies are making all said and done $150 a customer (total over 2-3 deliveries possibly more)to deliver oil to your home in the rain,sleet, and snow. I used to be in the industry and the average homeowner doesn’t get their oil heating system cleaned and maintained on a yearly basis. By not doing so you’re costing yourself a 1/4 to half tank of oil sometimes more if you go longer than two years. And that’s with the higher ul standard oil you’re receiving, years ago it was more like a full tank of oil due to the higher soot content during combustion.
Frequent_Ad_7824 OP t1_iu6b2yk wrote
I just heard back t on the Radio too
beansoupscratch t1_iu5sm87 wrote
A customer at work told me the same thing. I normally don’t listen to customers but he might be onto something.
Frequent_Ad_7824 OP t1_iu6on7z wrote
I think certain folks don’t want it getting out because of the elections and I get that I want them to win but that’s playing with peoples lives alittle too much for me
beansoupscratch t1_iu6oym3 wrote
I think so much is being on the hush hush until after the elections and it's really annoying because our lives are being messed with to get votes and this goes for both parties.
Wide_Television_7074 t1_iu7v50h wrote
democrats have created a crisis because they’d rather buy foreign oil than American oil
Osburg t1_iu6gexi wrote
For Europe, it will be worse
Frequent_Ad_7824 OP t1_iu7ghj6 wrote
I agree
Desperate_Expert_952 t1_iu7531d wrote
We are running out of diesel and home heating oil. Should get good
FlashbackBob t1_iu8axty wrote
Get a pellet stove installed in your house if you can. I had one installed in my home 3 years ago and it’s the best home improvement I’ve ever made. I just bought a ton of pellets; 60 40lb bags. I use a bag a day, and my pellet stove heats my whole house. Total cost of the ton of pellets was $340, and that ton lasts approximately 2 months. It costs me less than $1000 to heat my house for the whole winter, and I own a 2 story colonial. The upstairs does stay a bit cooler than downstairs where the pellet stove is but we stay downstairs most of the time anyway. I’m typing this while sitting near my pellet stove and it’s cozy and warm here and the outside temp is in the upper 30’s.
Frequent_Ad_7824 OP t1_iu8px2n wrote
I got one and yes it’s a great way. I may have to add a 2nd one. Our house is a weird layout
FlashbackBob t1_iu92lg0 wrote
The stair to the 2nd floor in our house is in the middle and divides the living room from the family room. The heat from the pellet stove rises up those stairs and flows into the bedrooms. It takes time for that to heat the upstairs but it gets the job done.
kristym9 t1_iuhwdvl wrote
Eastco oil in Bellingham ma said prices are still rising and there will be shortages soon
Frequent_Ad_7824 OP t1_iui7sy9 wrote
I just wanted to alert people but thank you for verifying what I said
shortys7777 t1_iu6rn26 wrote
No need when you heat with wood
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kristym9 t1_iuhuyl0 wrote
We just paid $5.49 a gallon to top off tank and oilman said the same
BMorris2526 t1_iu4niar wrote
I saw on the news last night that there is only a 25 day supply of diesel in the United States. This self inflicted energy crisis is getting scary, as nearly all fuel delivery trucks run on diesel.
BigDaddyCoolDeisel t1_iu4o4w6 wrote
It seems you were confused by what you heard. The 'reserve' of diesel has 25 days left. But the flow and supply continues. That's like saying "I only have 25 days of canned goods in my basement" and thinking you will starve...
I get it.. it's complicated stuff.
BMorris2526 t1_iu4oaxh wrote
Thanks for clarifying that.
BigDaddyCoolDeisel t1_iu4oedf wrote
All good. Depending on the source they likely twisted reality to match their narrative.
BMorris2526 t1_iu4oz8t wrote
Also read it on Bloomberg which is pretty reliable. I must have misinterpreted the info.
8pointstar t1_iu74le1 wrote
This is true, ty for clarifying. However 25 days in reserve isn't normal and is cause for genuine concern. ie If I said, "Today I have 25 cans of food in the basement. Last week I had 35 cans", you would raise an eyebrow, yes?
Brian_06030 t1_iu7b62q wrote
It's cyclical, it's hit close to this low multiple times in 2019, 2018, 2013 and the lowest in 2008
The only difference is now people panic at the slightest mention of oil prices changing, and oil companies profit from it
8pointstar t1_iu9h4q3 wrote
It was 25 in 2008 and everyone who knew was concerned. Further, the downward trajectory is too steep. This isn't a gradual loss, and even the WH has called it "unacceptable" Also, maybe don't criticize people for worrying about oil prices when 100 gallons this year could cost them upwards of 600 vs last year's 250. Prices like that can and will drag many families over the financial edge.
Wide_Television_7074 t1_iu7uw8z wrote
why do you think that is? because we have a demented geriatric asleep at the wheel while his interns drain the strategic petroleum reserve and push global nuclear war
Wide_Television_7074 t1_iu7usde wrote
you clearly don’t understand commodities but cool!
Good-Expression-4433 t1_iu4o3u4 wrote
It's not exactly self inflicted when oil companies are intentionally keeping prices higher and limiting production.
It's less a matter of direct politics and more a matter of unchecked corporate greed.
BMorris2526 t1_iu4oqfz wrote
I disagree. Oil companies don't control the price of oil. It's a free market and it's controlled by supply and demand. If they could control the price, they would not have been selling oil at $25.00 a barrel while the orange man was president.
Still-Significance-8 t1_iu6rhj3 wrote
They can absolutely manipulate the markets by simply shutting off wells and forcing scarcity. Then they can pump less oil and make more money. No oil company is going to increase production to sell it for less.
Dt74104 t1_iu69an2 wrote
You’re completely incorrect. The price of crude is controlled, in some ways, similarly to the price of diamonds. Never mind speculation affecting the indexes. “Free market” is not even close.
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Frequent_Ad_7824 OP t1_iu4o2jk wrote
That 25 day supply started in oct 15. So it’s less than that now.
BitterStatus9 t1_iu6zgit wrote
Stay in school, kids.
Wide_Television_7074 t1_iu7uh8s wrote
all these libtards trying to explain away Joe Biden’s America — that demented fuck drained the strategic petroleum reserve when diesel is at record lows (like… never this low before). get ready for max pain this winter. source: EIA, ISO-NE, NYISO, PJM, NEPGA, NEPOOL
mkmck t1_iu8o41z wrote
OK Mr. Hannity.
Wide_Television_7074 t1_iu96fhi wrote
snarky comments downplaying the seriousness of this doesn’t help anybody. it’s incredibly disappointing because Biden didn’t have to cause this, he could have supported our domestic energy industry.
Desperate_Expert_952 t1_iu74sna wrote
Thanks Obama
DCLexiLou t1_iu4ce89 wrote
sounds like BS. There's plenty of No2 heating oil in reserve for this winter. Prices are high but there's plenty to go around. This is fear mongering bullshit. Find a new supplier.