trabblepvd t1_isx84c4 wrote on October 19, 2022 at 11:15 AM

Reply to comment by Kraft-cheese-enjoyer in How To Watch Tonight's (7 PM) Debate Between Magaziner and Fung by UnderwaterInRI

Magaziner had that awful section where he was pushing for nuclear war. With that, I cant believe anyone who was on the fence would would find nuclear war appealing.

Kraft-cheese-enjoyer t1_isxdv6l wrote on October 19, 2022 at 12:14 PM

I actually thought that answer was well thought out and came off strong. NATO should be ready to escalate and respond should Russia use nukes.

trabblepvd t1_isxhy3p wrote on October 19, 2022 at 12:50 PM

It lacked perspective and a de-escalation option. Comes off as reckless to me.

Kraft-cheese-enjoyer t1_isxi273 wrote on October 19, 2022 at 12:51 PM

I think your take is reasonable but personally I think allies need to demonstrate that nuclear usage is unacceptable

DeftApproximation t1_isxy6tc wrote on October 19, 2022 at 2:51 PM

It’s that whole appeasement / don’t tolerate the intolerant philosophy. Eventually you gotta draw a line in the sand that says; do not cross.

If you appease a bully, are they really incentivized to stop their behavior? They just got what they wanted by being a bully, why would they stop if they can just keep doing it?

It is a very tenuous situation but eventually we gotta draw that line.

trabblepvd t1_isxzhlz wrote on October 19, 2022 at 3:00 PM

I also object to the demonization of the energy industry. Seth was relaying the same talking points of energy prices being an issue of corporate greed when we all know that simply isn't the case. Attacking an industry as enemies goes no where towards working with them to find a solution. Its equates to a throwing up of hands and saying its not my fault, don't blame me look at them, I can't do anything about it type of answer.

Kraft-cheese-enjoyer t1_isy0t1l wrote on October 19, 2022 at 3:09 PM

I agree. That is a lazy talking point that the democrats seem to use. Luckily i think it’s all talk lol