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degggendorf t1_iunaz49 wrote

No, it's the name for same term for the same groups.

Which part do you disagree with, the "extremist" part or the "hate" part?

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southofthetower t1_iunc9et wrote

then what is the progressive left called? are they not extremist or hate? look here... all these "progressives" are the first one to denounce anything of substance and immediately name call and try silence my opinion. So by defention, is that not hateful or extreme?

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degggendorf t1_iuncyud wrote

They are extremist if their ideas are much further left than the mainline party, yes. That's what the term means. Someone who wants literal communism would indeed be an extremist.

> immediately name call

I think your victim complex is showing...you're all over this thread but no one is calling you names.

> try silence my opinion

How are they doing that?

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southofthetower t1_iunda2a wrote

Victim complex? fitting.... this whole thread is about "victims" not being able to fly a flag... so who has the complex?

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degggendorf t1_iunem5x wrote

> so who has the complex?

You, still you.

You don't see the difference between your imagined persecution, and the actual violence against queer people?

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southofthetower t1_iunf8td wrote

so flying a flag on state land is going to end said "violence"?

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degggendorf t1_iunft22 wrote

Nobody said it would. I'm saying that you're claiming to be persecuted in a way that you aren't, which is evidence of having a victim complex.

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ziddersroofurry t1_iuni0im wrote

It won't end the violence but what it will do is let the LGBTQIA+ community know that we're being recognized as being citizens and people deserving of acknowledgment, validation, and rights, and send a signal to those who would see us oppressed that the tide is slowly turning.

The whole reason we claim to be victims is because we are. That doesn't mean we have a complex. It's a matter of fact. You're adding to our victimization via your attempts at discrediting our plight as a group.

Maybe if you tried having a little compassion for others instead of ignoring the very serious issues and dangers that we as a group face you'd see that this isn't about some dumb flag. It's about the people that flag represents and the absolute horror show that is the way were treated by a large number of this planets population.

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southofthetower t1_iuninsl wrote

I understand the symbolism. I understand the plight... the only this i'm saying is that on state property it should go via a vote of the citizens. pretty simple concept.

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buddhamanjpb t1_iunjwdm wrote

Just curious how you feel about religious symbolism on state property? Are you ok with crosses and nativity scenes on state land? In public schools?

Also, if you started this thread with that statement, rather than picking a fight, this could have been a much better conversation instead of immediately thinking I was attacking your ideals.

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southofthetower t1_iunkvsb wrote

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. There is a reason between church and state. There are private schools for religion. State schools should be best of all religions... there is also a reason, why these flags are not flown at state schools....

I agree with your last statement. I was not looking for a fight, but rather a thoughtful discussion. I was attacked right from my first post, so I apologize for protecting my ideals.

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buddhamanjpb t1_iunjmff wrote

It's also funny that you instantly thought I was referring to right wing groups, when i mentioned nothing of the sort. Goes to show how biased and ignorant you really are.

So yes, left wing extremist hate groups are also hate groups.

Reading comprehension is fun.

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southofthetower t1_iunju4u wrote

bro, you commented on the LC GOP as hate groups... yeah reading comprehension is fun.

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