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totoop t1_ix9e6oo wrote

"It will be Pawtucket’s first new school in more than 80 years."

Landmark or not, I'm ecstatic for the city that that will no longer be a statistic.

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waxenpi t1_ixc2wxm wrote

Pawtucket to Providence is like Oakland to San Francisco

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lolabeanz59 t1_ix9p1p8 wrote

This is great. Tolman and Shea are so outdated and our young adults deserve a better, modernized school.

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PawtucketPatriot t1_ixa3g6w wrote

Renovating and bringing these schools up to standards of today will likely cost just as much as building a new, state of the art school. Also, developers love converting old schools into condos/apartments. Bothe high schools are in desirable locations to do just that. Hopefully with affordability in mind.

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Odd-Independent4640 t1_ixaoh2i wrote

All for this. They should also just change the high school mascot to the Paw Sox so they can incorporate all the decor directly into the new facilities

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thirdtimesthemom t1_ixac4jr wrote

Warwick just voted to build new schools too. Lots of facebook drama over it lol.

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CaribbeanCowgirl27 t1_ixb2dz4 wrote

Warwick has a problem with the word new. I see people complaining about the lack of small, non-chain restaurants while only eating in the same places over and over, cause god forbid driving to Cranston 😂

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thirdtimesthemom t1_ixbcj9s wrote

I have noticed lol and instead of new restaurants, they get new gas stations.

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dweeb_plus_plus t1_ixc9c2u wrote

I play a little game in my head whenever I see a new construction site. It’s called “credit union or gas station.”

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Digitalburn t1_ixcuhnw wrote

Hey, there was that one time when it was a Dave's... with a bank in front of it... that was from across the street and a new bank moved into its old building. Why do we have so many banks?

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TheGhost820 t1_ixayism wrote

Despite the good memories of watching the baseball games there with my dad, this would be really good for the community and I’m all for it.

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misterspokes t1_ix9aqel wrote

If they can somehow keep the murals intact for the new building I would be down.

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Swamp_yankee_ninja t1_ixa3mx2 wrote

Pawtucket should knock down Pawtucket and just start over.

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dweeb_plus_plus t1_ixdwd64 wrote

Call it New Pawtucket and make all the buildings polished aluminum and glass with flying cars and space helmets and silver jumper suits. The future city I was promised in the 80s.

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gutter_sluggs t1_ixa9ep9 wrote

Good, so much money and space gets wasted for athletics. Hopefully the school doesn’t dump all is resources into sports programs.

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majoroutage t1_ixaxcg7 wrote

You must have missed the new Soccer stadium project we never got to vote on that will cost at least as much as we voted against spending on McCoy.

Fucking thieves.

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everyoneisnuts t1_ixagi1q wrote

Athletics are immensely beneficial for all youths, but even more so for at risk youths.

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lazydictionary t1_ixay9eo wrote

The issue is that not every at-risk-youth plays sports.

Those most at risk are usually on some kind of academic probation and aren't eligible to play.

Or they lack the financial resources for travel, training, equipment, rides home, etc.

Mandating physical activity for all students is a better solution as a whole - focusing money on specific athletic teams or events still leaves people behind.

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everyoneisnuts t1_ixbe36i wrote

Of course not every at risk youth plays sports, but those that do are keeping up their grades, keeping out of trouble, being part of a team working towards a common goal together, learning discipline, and building elf-esteem and self-worth. If a lot of these kids didn’t have sports in place to provide that structure and motivation to want to stay on the team, they would probably struggle greatly. So, there is nothing that is an absolute for everyone, but sports do a great deal to help many. Why would we want to take that away from them? Not sure how having less options that are know to help kids is better for them.

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thatstheteasis95 t1_ixbih2g wrote

Its their home lives that are the main issue. It's hard for kids to keep up grades when they barely eat, or not able to rest and feel secure in their own homes. Keeping up grades to do sports can be a huge obstacle for those reasons and that's why kids give up on trying to achieve. More extracurriculars should be available to kids- not just sports, but that also takes budgeting. Putting a basket ball/foot ball in a kid's hand doesn't change their home life and lack of mental health resources causing their issues.

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ziddersroofurry t1_ixcbzzm wrote

The issue is schools focus primarily on two sports-football and basketball. Those are the big money earners in regards to both scouting from universities and ticket sales. Sports like soccer, tennis, vollyball, etc are often overlooked as they just don't interest people as much.

The other issue is injuries. We know how much it costs in terms of harmful injuries and both short and long-term medical care. Football's one of the most dangerous activities a kid can take part in.

As far as arts, theater, music, and other programs those are getting phased out more and more as they cost far more than they bring in. Schools aren't about educating kids. They're about training kids to be money-earners which is why only the programs and activities that bring their schools the most money end up sticking around.

Schools aren't there to educate for the benefit of society. They came about as a means for the wealthy elite to foster a working class for them to exploit. This is why the best colleges are more often than not restricted to those with wealth and influence and why we're not seeing the wealthy in a hurry to implement actual, beneficial free education (and I don't just mean college-it costs a lot of money to send kids to good schools, period).

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March_Latter t1_ix9gikj wrote

Pawtucket has a lot of dead space but I guess they don't want to continue looking at the stadium. Hopefully it will be build in a cost effective, consider...

What am I saying? Its going to be a financial free for all and we all know it.

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big_whistler t1_ix9tdyv wrote

Highschools are worth spending on. If every project is going to go over budget, this is one its worth it for.

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total_life_forever t1_ixb2kai wrote

ugh I just hate it when cities and towns try to improve themselves.

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March_Latter t1_ixch3k8 wrote

What I hate is that in those improvements nobody talks about the money. Its never a question of value, that is always disregarded. They want their shiny new toy and if it bankrupts the city or goes 100 million over budget who cares.

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redcapmilk t1_ixcjt40 wrote

Dude, we are talking about a school.

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March_Latter t1_ixcklwo wrote

You prove my point perfectly. Because its a school who cares what it costs right?

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redcapmilk t1_ixdw171 wrote

Well yeah. If your "overbudget shiny toy", had been built, I wouldn't have gone seen The WooSox in Wooster this summer. There are large swaths of the south that don't value kids or education, UHauls are cheap and 95 goes south.

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March_Latter t1_ixeamoy wrote

Oh did I upset a Rhode Island Liberal? Oh so sorry...I never want to upset the magical thinking people. At least you got your socially superior comment in.

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total_life_forever t1_ixfye8z wrote

Thanks for especially emphasizing for all to see the importance of investing in our schools.

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March_Latter t1_ixk67we wrote

Really, you folks cant even google and want to feel superior. I would advise investing less seeing these comments are the outcome.

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Jack__Squat t1_ix9lhvw wrote

I can understand not leaving the stadium to rot and taking it down while the money is available. But this five-year plan? That's shit's going way over budget, they always do.

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March_Latter t1_ix9m8ib wrote

>Joined

Oh yes. Wait till they start digging and find out the inverts are all wrong or what was at the stadium location originally. Add some contaminated soil and the largest teachers lounge available and watch it all go out of hand with nobody willing to stop it.

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Emmafabb t1_ixel265 wrote

Is there a lot of dead space?

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March_Latter t1_ixelkd1 wrote

Yes. Old mill city's tend to be that way. Fallen mills, old did spaces and parking lots.

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Emmafabb t1_ixenwyr wrote

There are lots of city-owned mills and parking lots?

False.

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big_whistler t1_ixf12ce wrote

They can buy property or eminent domain it

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Emmafabb t1_ixfsz9g wrote

Yes, they can litigate for years and ultimately ‘eminent domain it’ - tax payers love that.

I’m sorry-sarcasm is weak…my b.

Nobody likes it when govt (local or otherwise) takes what they want-even if it’s at a ‘fair market value’. Come onnnnnnn

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March_Latter t1_ixeqdgl wrote

Would you like to know how many properties Pawtucket has? How about how many could be purchased for shit money. I will make it easy for you, go drive around that neighborhood and find out. The answers are not to difficult to find.

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Emmafabb t1_ixfsh5l wrote

You know this is public record, right? Literally anyone can discover this. And again-FALSE.

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JimmyHavok t1_ixbe2td wrote

How deteriorated is MCoy? Is it unusable, or did the Sox just want a shiny new stadium? Is the new soccer stadium a boondoggle or is McCoy not in any condition to be converted to a soccer stadium?

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ToadScoper t1_ixbi83q wrote

McCoy is abandoned, I explored it last summer and it’s already in a dismal state. Sections of the grandstand roofing had collapsed, and there was extensive water damage in the team locker rooms with mold throughout. It was really sad to see the park in that state… I can only imagine how bad it is now

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CloudStrife012 t1_ixc4713 wrote

Did you happen to document it at all? Would love to see pictures or a video of it.

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ToadScoper t1_ixdchnj wrote

I will probably post something soon, I did not want to post anything on it last summer since I didn’t want vandals to get any ideas

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anevilpotatoe t1_ixbgjet wrote

This exactly what we need!! Finally a great decision

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Xalenn t1_ixdj0hb wrote

McCoy High School.

Come on ... Let's make this name happen!

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KennyWuKanYuen t1_ixbgzg3 wrote

I think I’m getting old because I feel bitter for knocking down a place I made some memories at, but then again, it’s also the best move seeing how shit Tolman and Shea are.

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FartGarfunkel_ t1_ixdigdd wrote

Why don’t they use the laundered funds for the soccer stadium no one asked for to build the school?

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