Yeah.... you're gonna have a bad time with this. Not saying you're wrong but you're for sure gonna have a bad time

This makes zero sense to me. Granted I don't drink. Maybe they're just lonely, miserable and want some paid attention on the cheaper side? But why do that if you're sick? Roe dylin people confuse me.

"why are you being a disease vector in my bar?"

"I'm not sick"

There is a large segment of the population who is so invested in not being a "snowflake" that they are willing to kill themselves and everyone they come in contact with in order to prove they are tough.

I agree.

Thanksgiving eve is going to be a nightmare — when everyone is fresh back into town and avoiding spending any more time than necessary with family. It’s always wall to wall in the bars.

Wouldn’t blame you if you started doing temperature checks at the door. Flu, RSV, Covid, impacted wisdom teeth? Don’t know, don’t care, if you’re temp is elevated, you can drink at home.

It sucks...stay home if your sick sure went out the window. Unfortunately if you work with the public, you're going to see this all the time. Sure they might just have allergies, but who really knows.

Not to be an ass but not everyone who coughs and sniffles is sick. This was a regular occurrence before people hyper focused on a respiratory disease for 3 years. I don’t think a bartender is likely able to differentiate someone’s allergies or smokers cough etc. I have acid reflux and cough all the time, I don’t think I’d appreciate a bar tender trying to diagnose me based on nothing and tell me to fuck off.

It makes you stronger fool!

Fuck people who go anywhere they don’t absolutely have to when sick.

The weather and the leaves coming down exacerbates allergies for a lot of people so they may be sniffling and not sick.

I was going to say, roughly half the population of Rhode Island has some sort of mild respiratory illness at any given time over the course of the winter, to say nothing of people's natural reaction to the cold.

Honestly. I bartend too and there's absolutely no way to do this in a way that won't cause problems with someone eventually. Like maybe the first couple will be like ok and leave but it won't work for more than like an hour. It's just the wrong business to be in for this kind of thing

I don’t understand this behavior. When I’m sick all I want to do is stay home and do nothing.

I just wonder OP if perhaps some of these folks aren’t sick and have allergies? I mean it can appear to be they are sick but aren’t and aren’t contagious.

I have horrible allergies all year long. That being said I know when not to go to a bar. If I’m actually sick I’m not going anywhere. Let alone a bar. Some people are just selfish, and miserable.

Now, if you’re judging solely on coughing, clearing throats, or having an irritated nose then you’re cutting out a large portion of the population like me, or even worse, those with breathing disorders.

Don’t worry we won’t be back!

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At the very least, can they stop leaving their nasty ass used tissues on the bar/table for us to pick up?? I saw this happen multiple times this weekend. Grossssss

Exactly.

It makes you sick, dummy.

My sister keeps sending her kids (not in RI) to school sick because “we tested, it’s not Covid, it’s just a cold.” I said, people don’t want a cold, either.

Some people just don’t fucking get it.

Mission accomplished

How many times have you heard "alcohol kills the germs right? hurr hur". In all seriousness, after the past two years dealing with covid and morons, I assume that anyone shitty enough to go to the bar while sick will become immediately hostile and defensive if you asked about them being sick

Yeah but are you leaving snot laden tissues and lung butter for them to clean up?

Me no I clean after myself and don’t have snot issues. Imo anyone should clean up even if sick. But my point still stands this isn’t for a bartender to decide who is sick and who isn’t.

At some point, kids are no longer actively contagious. We keep our kids home for a few days, and if no fever and symptoms improving, our day care POLICY is it's ok to send them back.

If we kept a kid home until he was 100% back to normal he would be out for 10 days every other week.

Bye plague rat

But at the same time what about the folks who are actually sick and deem they're not?

Fool yes. Stronger is irrelevant.

I had sinus surgery so my nose runs like a leaky faucet BUT I always tell everyone I’m in contact with.

Also, the rapid tests are no longer able to catch most COVID infections of the new strains unless someone is really, really churning out the virus. Passing a single rapid test that was only swapped in the nose doesn't mean you don't have COVID.

Well, obviously. I remember as a kid that “perfect attendance” was touted as an achievement. In some schools, it still is. It’s also complete horseshit.

I’m not saying she doesn’t keep her kids home until there’s not a single sniffle or cough. I’m saying she doesn’t keep them home at all because “it’s not Covid, it’s just a cold.”

Maybe the reason your kids get sick so often is the lax attitude at your daycare.

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Don’t work with the public. Idk what else to tell you. You are going to have X number of sick people in your bar all winter. It’s part of the gig.

How do you juggle your kids and two parents with full-time jobs? I'd love to know.

Cause when you grow up they want you to not miss a single day of work in your life, the american way.

Exactly. I’m a barfly and I’ve never seen anyone leave used tissues on the bar. It’s certainly not a widespread issue. OP is just being pissy.

Good luck keeping your job if you tell every paying customer who sneezes or coughs to fuck off.

This should be common sense.

OP works in the service industry. They enable your cirrotic habit. Be kind to them

I’m very kind to them. I don’t cough in their faces, I tip well and I’m the quiet guy at the end of the bar that doesn’t cause problems. Get off the cross, we need the wood.

Yeah I mean dude I don’t know what to tell you.

Obviously if they’re hacking and coughing probably not best to be at a bar. But a cold isn’t and shouldn’t keep people in

100%. I feel like OP is looking for a reason to justify being a dick although I do support the sentiment.

I’m not saying I agree with that. But why is that a strangers job to determine if you are sick or not? With what training? With what authority? I agree they should stay home if sick, but I also think that has nothing to do with the bartender logically.

Schools aren't supposed to be extended day care. They're supposed to be where kids go to learn. Kinda hard to learn when you've got some drippy-nosed germ factory making you and everyone else sick. When I had a cold my aunt-a nurse-kept me out of school until she was certain I wasn't contagious.

I get it but at the same time you can't expect people to never go out or to never have someone who's sick in your establishment. You might have the right to refuse someone service but you're going to lose a lot of customers with that attitude.

Besides-before Covid nobody gave a shit about getting a cold. That's what you're going to get 99% of the time. Relax.

"Setting you on fire kills the germs, too"

Some people don’t get that exposure to a relatively mild virus (the cold) prepares the body to fight off a multitude of other viruses. The reason that we’re having such a noticeable uptick in upper respiratory viral infections is because there has been very little low level exposure for the last two years resulting in the viruses continuing to mutate naturally and our immune systems not keeping up.

As another redditor said to me recently, “Don’t try to argue with the hive mind.”

Seriously haha I get horrible allergies for like two weeks whenever the season changes and everyone always looks at me like 😠 when I go out I’m like ahhh I swear I’m popping all the Benadryl that I can !! XD

OP sounds like an absolute moron lmao

Yeah. My youngest has bad allergies. And everyone thinks they are spring time only. Not the case. Fall brings a bad case for him too.

People have been practicing this behavior for years. I'm sure everyone here had a grandpa who used to walk around with a handkerchief blowing his nose everywhere using the same cloth all day. You guys are just fucking sketched out because you got brain fucked with Covid. Now you have high anxiety anytime you see a wet nose or hear a cough. If you're concerned with your health, you maybe should look into a different profession. You have a higher probability of getting a safer job, that changes the habits of the public with a reddit post. Good luck, and thanks for all the downvotes.

Go back and read my comment. It is extended day care.

Also, we wait until symptoms largely resolved, at that point you’re not shedding tons of virus and for some infections you’re not contagious within 2-3 days. Even COVID is only a 5 day quarantine plus 1-2 negative tests.

Set a fire for a man, and he's warm for a day.

Set a man on fire, and he's warm for the rest of his life.

Yeah. Our viral season this year is going to be tough specifically because we have largely avoided any immune challenge (for good reason, don’t get me wrong!) during two plus years of COVID and masking.

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They probably spent all day at work like that

and feel like they need a drink after work

I agree that people shouldn't go out when they're sick, but the reality is they do and they will continue to. I'd suggest getting a different job because this won't change.

Do you not interact in any way with the maga crowd? That's all that matters to them.

Depending on the bar around here they probably just have a Coke habit. All the local bars are infested with it now 😭 runny nose isn’t Covid 😂

It’s not a runny nose, it’s cocaine

Some people also can’t afford to keep their own children at home because they have to work during the day. Some people aren’t as privileged as you are.

Some people just don’t fucking get it.

She’s a college professor who works two days a week. She can do what she needs to.

School isn’t daycare. If your kid is sick, sure you may not be able to care for them yourself — you have a backup plan. If you don’t, you think your best bet is to send your sick kid to school to infect all the kids and teachers?

Solid parenting.

Hahaha. Your response shows that you have not lived a life with uncertainty or turbulence. I envy that of you. I don't really care for your sister and her situation (Maybe you should talk to her about it, rather than cry on reddit) but others are not as lucky as you. Count your blessings.

You have literally NO idea what I’ve done or not done, who I am, what I’ve gone through. Just like I don’t know you.

I didn’t cry about anything, but that’s cute. I mentioned something on topic about the particular thread we’re in. I know, crazy, right? I think any parent who sends their kids to school sick sucks.

Temperature checks at the door? Are you serious? Is that the world you want to live in

I’m sure the owner would love this

How many used snot rags do you pick up in a day?

Preach !

As a bartender, how many glasses does one touch in a shift that has had direct contact with another humans saliva? Snot rag or dirty glass, There's still a risk here. It's part of the job. If someone doesn't like the risk, then get another job. All around you there are germs. From the doors you open when using a public restroom, to deadly bacteria on the chicken you touch at the grocery store. If someone is concerned about picking a snot rag, then use gloves. No need to bitch about little stupid shit that was never a big issue 3 years ago.

You didn’t answer the question though. How many used snot rags do you voluntarily pick up in a day? You sound like the type of person who doesn’t wash their hands after using the bathroom and insists it’s not actually necessary

I don't think anyone wants to voluntarily pick up snot rags. And you're making an assumption that I don't wash my hands? You sound like an idiot. I just simply stated some logical facts. You're either delusional or ignorant. Maybe both.

It’s a bad flu season coming up, along with RSV for parents and kids (most adults just get a cough and sniffle), and likely we will see one Covid variant spread quick too.

I seriously recommend people stick to mostly outdoors stuff or to small groups this winter. And wear a mask in big crowds again.

I wish the schools made it possible to stay home. I currently have a court date next week for absences from last year. Rules were SUPPOSED to be if you had certain symptoms to stay home and if not better in a day, get tested. We followed those and got in trouble for days absent. But the one day I sent my kid in with a runny nose I got looked at like I was crazy by the principle. Like make up your damn mind.

I’m going to ask wtf I was supposed to do during a pandemic when I am there next week. I never got an answer from the school nurse when asked so maybe the judge will have one. I’m sure I’ll have to pay a fine which is dumb. But whatever

"No need to bitch about little stupid shit that was never a big issue 3 years ago."

Society tends to do this crazy thing where it, and bear with me here, progresses.

Yes, to a degree. I once got very upset at a co-worker and friend who came to the office very clearly ill with flu and got everyone in our wing sick. I gave it to my immunocompromised dad (living at home at the time), and he spent 9 days in the ICU. I was pissed. This was pre-pandemic.

Her excuse? It was a big day at work. She wasn't wrong. And she probably would have gotten shit had she called out sick that day.

So many of our problems stem from the outdated, disgustingly American mentality of work over everything else. It's changing here, thankfully, but too slowly.

Ayy

I could be wrong, but pretty sure CDC only went to a 5-day quarantine when the economy really couldn't bear the weight of longer quarantine periods on a mass scale anymore. I think it was 10 days prior to that change. But again, I could be misremembering.

Perhaps these are scenarios one should consider before deciding to have children?

Actually, society and the crazy costs of living are why I work 2 jobs but 👏🏼 you’re so cool for shitting on people that work all the time. Yet can’t afford to be getting sick.

I already did this once. Remember covid, that thing that killed over a million Americans?

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You’re right it was a medical decision on the benefit of additional time from a medical outcome standpoint. The percentage of people capable of still spreading the virus at day 6 is not statistically significantly more than at day 11, given the added burden on the patient.

Hey just letting you know that all of your beliefs are wrong

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At a bare minimum, wear a damn mask if you’re sick and have to go somewhere. This isn’t rocket science.

There are some hypotheses about this but not a lot of evidence to support it. Yeah, if you didn’t interact with other ppl for some time, you may get a cold or other virus when you start interacting socially again, but that doesn’t mean that the mild infections protect against more severe ones down the road. Immunity is largely pathogen-specific, and even for the non-specific part of the immunity, it will develop regardless of having contact with actively sick people at a bar. Preventing obvious exposures shouldn’t be discouraged— you’ll get exposed to stuff anyway.

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Sure do. And if we were in a situation of the same severity I’d be right behind you. But we aren’t