Submitted by Bobisadrummer t3_ypq9re in RhodeIsland
Blubomberikam t1_ivkbd8k wrote
There are quite literally 1000's of non fraud reasons someone may be using a car with Florida plates. There are virtually no credible instances of voter fraud whatsoever.
RI already has asinine voter ID laws and the board of canvassers have strict policy on identity.
This is a non issue and my primary suggestion is get off of fox news and look at the many voter integrity organizations out there that extensively check for these things.
brick1972 t1_ivkrmo2 wrote
Not sure whether you are just drumming up donations for the ACLU, but I think your black and white application here (any voter ID law is as bad as any other) actually purposefully ignores the work that people have been doing and continue to do.
The reason I mention this is that RI has indeed some of the most progressive voter standards that there are and a lot of people that don't just blather on the internet have worked hard to improve the system. Voter ID is required to cast a regular in-person vote, but *not* required for a provisional ballot. You can refuse to show your ID for any reason and still vote on a provisional. Is a provisional ballot a little bit of a pain compared to a regular ballot? Sure? But it's not preventing voting. As well, anyone can request a mail ballot which does not require an ID. And the state will provide a voter ID for no charge. Are these compromises, sure, but they are made not just to appease FOX news, they make the entire process run better.
Poll workers have an easier time with a scan system than with looking up registration rolls so Voter ID in this sense makes voting easier as it keeps the process moving. I know you will go ahead and say everything is bullshit but it also makes it easier to direct people to their proper polling place which actually does matter for things like city councils and state reps which are district specific nevermind for figuring out which polling places need more staff and booths, etc. So there is a lot of relief of burden on poll workers which is actually worth something. (note, my bias here as a regular poll worker (not this year needed a break after Covid year))
Blubomberikam t1_ivksezd wrote
The mail in and provisional ballots are checked against signatures which are captured when getting an ID or registering, which requires one. It's not a work around for refusing to use an ID, just for refusing one at a polling place. I also was a poll worker.
the_falconator t1_ivkdzsj wrote
>RI already has asinine voter ID laws
RI has reasonable bipartisan approved voter ID laws.
Blubomberikam t1_ivkfc6y wrote
Sure. I'm sure the poor and disenfranchised people are super glad both ruling parties could come together
the_falconator t1_ivkg5k5 wrote
There's a long list of acceptable documents and if you still don't have any of those you can get a free voter ID. If you do t have the ability to figure out how to get a voter ID you probably can't figure out how to vote either.
Blubomberikam t1_ivkgmex wrote
Its still a barrier to entry to solve a problem that almost entirely doesn't exist at an individual voter level.
I'm not interested in arguing why voter ID laws suck.
Bobisadrummer OP t1_ivkd69d wrote
>There are quite literally 1000's of non fraud reasons someone may be using a car with Florida plates.
Feel free to list some aside from Rental, College Student and Active Duty. There should be literally 9997 more reasons according to you.
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>There are virtually no credible instances of voter fraud whatsoever.
That's wrong, there's plenty of instances of voter fraud, most of them committed by republican voters and Trump supporters.
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>my primary suggestion is get off of fox news
Thanks for your suggestion, but I don't watch Fox News. Ironic that so many people here are jumping down my throat because I'm asking a question while then making their own assumptions. Good job!
Blubomberikam t1_ivkdf1v wrote
I mean, you jumped to voter fraud based on a license plate so I don't know what you expected to come from this.
Bobisadrummer OP t1_ivkdwbw wrote
No, I didn't. I asked "is there not some kind of fraud happening there?" I didn't say voter fraud.
Blubomberikam t1_ivkfe9m wrote
And the argued with everyone who said "no".
Bobisadrummer OP t1_ivkhbxp wrote
No, I argued with people who came in here making assumptions and giving answers to questions not asked. Believe me, asking a question on reddit is the last thing I'd like to do. I tried to look up the rules regarding out of state auto registration (hence the entire second half of my post) but I couldn't find any solid info online. Silly me for assuming reddit could spend a second thinking before posting their replies.
Blubomberikam t1_ivkhwj7 wrote
You put out into the world "is this fraud" and asked questions with lots of possible explanations but directed the conversation. People are overwhelmingly telling you it's incredibly unlikely it's fraud but you won't get off the hill.
Bobisadrummer OP t1_ivkjcmc wrote
Yeah, I’m directing the conversation to the question I asked, so we don’t end up off topic like regarding shitty voter ID laws.
Blubomberikam t1_ivkjpiz wrote
How many people need to tell you no?
degggendorf t1_ivl2a0a wrote
> Feel free to list some aside from Rental, College Student and Active Duty. There should be literally 9997 more reasons according to you.
Someone who just moved here and updated their license but not registration.
Someone borrowing a car from a friend of relative.
Someone disabled getting a ride from a friend or relative visiting.
Someone stole the plates from an FL car.
Someone stole a FL car.
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