Proof-Variation7005 t1_j2b8w15 wrote on December 30, 2022 at 11:46 PM

Reply to comment by Sarcofaygo in Population dips in Mass. and Rhode Island, Census figures say by bostonglobe

>The vaccine meant nothing in my household. We all caught covid from a fully vaccinated and boosted family member.

Again, your family doesn't matter. Jesus titty fucking christ. Get it through your head that your extremely fucking limited experience is irrelevant in contradiction of broader statisticcs.

>I thought it was supposed to stop the spread? That wasn't my experience. We all had covid while fully vaccinated.

That's the goal. If we'd been able to deliver vaccines globally with as close to universal adoption rate, we would have maybe had a chance to do that before new mutations took hold. Part of that was unavoidable because of production and distribution limits and 3rd world nations with limited resources. Other parts were hurt because other countries settled on a less effective version of the vaccine.

And it was all doomed because enough people held out long enough and now we've got a situation where a booster specifically designed for Omicron variants has been ignored by like 80% of the population.

>It should not be mandated. The person I initially replied to said people should be pinned down and "made" to take the vaccine

I'm willing to compromise and just limit the ability to interact with those who refuse. In schools, treat it like the dozen other vaccines that are required to attend. And maybe we can have a "fuck around and find out" thing where instead of a hospital bed or known effective therapies, the unvaccinated can trust their immune system to the grave.

>For the first time, a majority of Americans dying from the coronavirus received at least the primary series of the vaccine.

Fifty-eight percent of coronavirus deaths in August were people who were vaccinated or boosted, according to an analysis conducted for The Health 202 by Cynthia Cox, vice president at the Kaiser Family Foundation.

I see you're as good at math as you are at science. Something like 80% of the US population has received 1 dose, with fully vaccinated being like 65% or so. Among higher risk groups like the elderly, those numbers are even higher.

This is like pointing out that most people who died of COVID are right-handed and pretending a link must exist instead of just realizing that THERE ARE A FUCKTON MORE PEOPLE WHO ARE RIGHT-HANDED IN THE WORLD.

This is classic base-rate fallacy bullshit.

Sarcofaygo t1_j2bbd9i wrote on December 31, 2022 at 12:03 AM

>Again, your family doesn't matter. Jesus titty fucking christ. Get it through your head that your extremely fucking limited experience is irrelevant in contradiction of broader statisticcs.

Why are you so angry?

>That's the goal. If we'd been able to deliver vaccines globally with as close to universal adoption rate, we would have maybe had a chance to do that before new mutations took hold.

"Would have maybe" There's a lot of qualifiers there. No guarantee it'd actually work.

>Part of that was unavoidable because of production and distribution limits and 3rd world nations with limited resources. Other parts were hurt because other countries settled on a less effective version of the vaccine.

Our "more effective" vaccine still didn't stop the spread.

>And it was all doomed because enough people held out long enough and now we've got a situation where a booster specifically designed for Omicron variants has been ignored by like 80% of the population.

People lost faith in the vaccines after the caught covid-19 while "fully vaccinated".

>I'm willing to compromise and just limit the ability to interact with those who refuse. In schools, treat it like the dozen other vaccines that are required to attend. And maybe we can have a "fuck around and find out" thing where instead of a hospital bed or known effective therapies, the unvaccinated can trust their immune system to the grave.

Isn't that basically what China tried? They don't have human rights there. It didn't work.

>I see you're as good at math as you are at science. Something like 80% of the US population has received 1 dose, with fully vaccinated being like 65% or so. Among higher risk groups like the elderly, those numbers are even higher.

And yet, they ate still dying of covid. Damn.

>This is like pointing out that most people who died of COVID are right-handed and pretending a link must exist instead of just realizing that THERE ARE A FUCKTON MORE PEOPLE WHO ARE RIGHT-HANDED IN THE WORLD.

Okay? Its still no longer a pandemic of the unvaccinated.

>This is classic base-rate fallacy bullshit.

I guess? Take it up with the Washington post and Kaiser Family Foundation, I'm just reporting the news.