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CoffeeHarvester t1_j4t6ebg wrote

At the risk of sounding like a "taxation is theft" type, sales tax and income tax should be 0.0% in every state. That is pure robbery taxing someone on for their work snd what they purchase with what is left for them.

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AttackonRetail t1_j4txym8 wrote

I'll bite. If we don't tax income or goods, how do we fund the state government and its services?

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littylikeatit t1_j4tfs10 wrote

You’re downvoted for the truth. Americans #1 expense is taxes. Income tax began as a temporary measure. Low income shouldn’t even pay income tax imo

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Proof-Variation7005 t1_j4v3yja wrote

Lol, america isn’t even close to one of the most taxed nations on earth and we’ve got the inferiority in quality of life ratings to prove it. There’s no polite way to say this so I won’t dance around it: you don’t know what you’re talking about.

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littylikeatit t1_j4v52t7 wrote

I never said most taxed on Earth. I just said that taxation is the largest expense for Americans: fact. And that income tax was introduced as a temporary measure: fact. You can disagree but you can’t say I have no idea what I’m talking about.

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Proof-Variation7005 t1_j4v975d wrote

Except no? The constitution doesn’t get amended with the intention of it being temporary. The 16th amendment could not be clearer.

And no, taxation is not the largest expense. As someone else pointed out, nearly half the country pays little to income tax. For the bulk of the middle class and even the upper class, it is maybe 25-30% of income.

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littylikeatit t1_j4v9pv8 wrote

Lol taxes are the biggest expense for Americans idk what to tell you. You could say that’s good or bad, and we could agree to disagree, but it’s true. Yes income tax was initially a temporary measure, then in 1913 a measure for the richest 1%.

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littylikeatit t1_j4vb00k wrote

There was income tax prior to 1913

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Proof-Variation7005 t1_j4vsq53 wrote

And? That was temporary. Income tax, as established in in the 16th amendment, was meant to be permanent and expandable as necessary to fund the government.

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littylikeatit t1_j4vb2xa wrote

And the fact you use a fact checker to go back n forth online is an L

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Proof-Variation7005 t1_j4vsffx wrote

Because I’m not going to type a big long thing about how wrong you are when someone else already did it for me. Cause make no mistake about it, you are embarrassingly wrong.

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littylikeatit t1_j4v0ykl wrote

They do pay RI income tax. This is a RI subreddit correct?

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degggendorf t1_j4xs9p3 wrote

Wait are you really going to say that you meant state income tax is a person's biggest expense? That 3.75% is the biggest line item in anyone's budget?

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littylikeatit t1_j4y6u54 wrote

No I said taxes. Taxes as in all taxes combined

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degggendorf t1_j4yljol wrote

So then doesn't that invalidate what you just said about being in the RI subreddit and only talking about RI taxes?

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littylikeatit t1_j4ylnqa wrote

How would McKee change federal income tax?

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degggendorf t1_j4ymejk wrote

Changing the subject when clearly caught in a lie. Classic right wing tactic.

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littylikeatit t1_j4ymkn7 wrote

Bruh I’m not right wing. Nice Reddit logic, if someone disagrees with me they must be the opposite political party. You really think taxes aren’t too high?

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degggendorf t1_j4yn7vp wrote

>Bruh I’m not right wing

Didn't say you were

>must be the opposite political party

Ironic how you immediately assumed my party, after chastising me for doing so

>You really think taxes aren’t too high?

Overall? Nope. I've already outlined my thoughts in this thread.

But don't think you've successfully distracted from the fact that you made a false claim about tax expenses, then zig zagged back and forth whether you were talking about RI taxes or not. You're allowed to admit you were wrong and learned something, going through these theatrics to avoid correcting your initial claim just makes you look worse.

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littylikeatit t1_j4ynsjk wrote

You’re a fool sorry man

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degggendorf t1_j4yo7gx wrote

Classic, resort to name-calling

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littylikeatit t1_j4yoe7u wrote

Sorry I don’t want to argue over taxes online

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degggendorf t1_j4yotj1 wrote

Okay so then why did you start talking about them in the first place, then proceed to make a dozen comments more trying to cover for your fallacy?

Simply not talking was always an option.

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BingBong022 t1_j4t9h6h wrote

Just make your income zero on paper and have all your money coming in from capital gains, much lower tax rate

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Desperate_Expert_952 t1_j4u5hj7 wrote

Taxation is theft.

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Proof-Variation7005 t1_j4v4735 wrote

My favorite part about libertarians is that you guys took “I don’t think there should be age of consent laws” and just built an entire ideology out from that

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Desperate_Expert_952 t1_j4wtk13 wrote

No one is advocating for crimes against children that is disgusting. I am talking about income tax.

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