254LEX t1_ja3dglz wrote
full
/fo͝ol/
adjective
- containing or holding as much or as many as possible; having no empty space.
A glass holding air could contain more if the air were pressurized, therefore it is not full.
I-dont-rickroll t1_ja42q4a wrote
The same thing applies to water or any other material you fill it with.
254LEX t1_ja45bbh wrote
Then 'technically' no glass in the world has ever been full.
I-dont-rickroll t1_ja45e8d wrote
Never say never but yeah that’s the point if you really wanna be that picky
jmpires t1_ja6y812 wrote
I’d say a glass is full when it overflows upon adding more fluid
TheShredda t1_ja6mxpk wrote
Except water is incompressible
fluffycritter t1_ja6uzpb wrote
Not with that attitude
Climate_Sweet t1_ja6u8xp wrote
water is incompressible
Ok_Lifeguard_6508 t1_ja74gff wrote
Is it though? It's denser at extreme depth. I'm trying to get my tired brain around this and failing.
SpiteAspect t1_ja7m28e wrote
Fill your cars combustion chambers up with water and tell me if it compresses lol
Ok_Lifeguard_6508 t1_jaamqfv wrote
Of course not because the conrods will bend first. But as an awake person I can now remember that water is indeed denser at great depth (to an extent that is reflectee in the anatomy of the fish that live there). So it is compressible it's just not easy.
Few-Opportunity-5196 OP t1_ja3hgv6 wrote
Touché my friend!
However... Having no empty space", you yourself posted as being full too?
But agree to an extent as well with your argument. Which would also mean that they're never full because most things can be compressed under extreme pressure. For example in a black hole...
254LEX t1_ja3oi26 wrote
That's the thing about semantic arguments; no one is ever right because definitions aren't rigorous. Words mean only what they are understood to mean, and a glass full of air is understood to be empty.
Throwaweigh40 t1_ja3ouh0 wrote
When you breathe in, are your lungs full?
254LEX t1_ja3pd81 wrote
Yes, because lungs are meant to hold 1 atm air. Glasses are meant to hold liquid.
Throwaweigh40 t1_ja3ruh4 wrote
You can put anything you want in glasses. Pens, food, toenail clippings
WildJackall t1_ja4e8r2 wrote
Reminds of when I argued that a hole is only a hole if it goes all the way through
SageSenpai t1_ja6ytms wrote
tillytubeworm t1_ja52xrg wrote
It’s it’s in an unpressurized environment it will be impossible to hold more, therefore even if it’s an unpressurized environment under that definition it would still be full.
254LEX t1_ja5oi5j wrote
If the air were colder, it would also be more dense and therefore more would fit in the glass. But this whole discussion is pointless. It's a semantic argument, and saying that things are always (or never) full makes the word 'full' meaningless. Neither argument aligns with how the word is used, therefore they are both wrong.
tillytubeworm t1_ja7rad6 wrote
If the air were colder it’d be a differently pressurized environment, so within any specific environment it’d always have the potentiality to be full. So even with your semantics I think OP’s showerthought is accurate in that sense. But not in the sense of using vacuum suction to remove the air.
Ok_Lifeguard_6508 t1_ja74k62 wrote
So ... it's full just below the pressure that causes it to break?
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