Submitted by [deleted] t3_118ub3l in Showerthoughts
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Submitted by [deleted] t3_118ub3l in Showerthoughts
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My great-grandmother was raped by Russian soldiers in WW2 and had a child, so...
You may not have a full understanding of the history of reproductive autonomy (and the lack thereof)
Ancestors long ago, and sadly some people now, didn't know how procreation works.
If you're a female you also go against a huge statistical probability.
Every single woman in your entire direct family lineage became pregnant at some point in their life.
So you are the first not to do so in a line of millions? Or I guess billions if you go back to the beginning of life on earth...
Not true.
Making such sweeping statements is ridiculous and weakens your point...which is pretty weak as-is.
How so?
Their mother was pregnant with them, their grandmother was pregnant with their mother, their great grandmother was pregnant with their grandmother and the line goes back to the beginning of life?
Every single woman in an ancestry doesn't have to give birth to be part of it. Your great-grandmother's aunt is still your ancestor if she never had a child.
You're trying to make a point using the wrong words. It sort of undermines your effort.
Lineage is more what you're talking about.
But I assume this is some anti-woman rant about their "duty" to have kids or some other nonsense.
And more to the OP point:
You say none had the URGE to live childless. There is no way on earth you know that. And it is a judgemental statement to make that you can't possibly prove
I've corrected it to hopefully be more accurate and not offensive.
Yes that is what I meant.
I did indeed use the wrong terminology, Sorry.
With all the wars that have existed, I don't think they all had children since most of them went to war at the age of 14 or 15 and to have sex they had to be accepted by the woman's father or give him money for his daughter's hand. . So I don't think most men in human history have slept with a woman in their lives.
And those people aren't anyone's ancestors.
You know what a LOT of those young men did while they were at war, after taking over a city, that only women and children were left in, getting the hint yet?
Pretty sure that's factually incorrect. And 'having children' =/= 'being in a relationship'. Not everyone was married. Lots of our ancestors had bastards/were affair partners/victims of sexual assault. And lots of ancestors gave their kids up/walked out of relationships. Forced procreation is a thing and I'm willing to bet lots of our ancestors had urges to be single and childless. I think you're misusing the word 'urge'.
Hate to break it to you, but it’s exceedingly likely that one or more of your ancestors were forced to birth an unwanted rape child. Our species has been around for a long time, and our predecessor species for even longer.
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Well, that's just not true.
On either count; with thousands and thousands of examples.
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oldfashionedcookout t1_j9j629z wrote
I mean some people don't want to have a child but are forced to anyway and throughout history it was pretty common for women to get r