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random1888wagred t1_je24hap wrote

None of the richest maybe, but some of the most successful in their fields - medicine, science, engineering etc. they all had degrees, their degrees were essential, and they got their success as a result. Success is more than money

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archeusdevine t1_je2wrjv wrote

Money guarantees success, but skill does not. I think that was the point here.

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CillGuy t1_je2xggc wrote

Money most definitely does not guarantee success

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Alspelpha t1_je2yw3r wrote

Not working with enough money. Endeavors with copious resources are more likely to succeed, thus multiplying the money. Also, it means you have more attempts/time to get it right.

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CillGuy t1_je2z64q wrote

I understand how money can make things easier sometimes. That’s still far from a guarantee.

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69duck420 t1_je3jgae wrote

No you don't understand, at some point of wealth, no matter how incompetent your money will make you more money. Look at Elon musk, he literally failed upwards into being the world's richest man.

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CillGuy t1_je3n6eh wrote

Not only is that still wrong, but your point about Musk is wrong as well. I highly recommend looking at this from a logical standpoint instead of the way you are now; you seem very attached and blinded by your hatred of wealth and/or a few selected wealthy people.

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ajc89 t1_je49kc6 wrote

I think this kind of comment is very ironic. You aren't looking at the situation logically, because it scares you to acknowledge the world is very far from fair and that people who are worshipped as saviors of humanity are actually just dudes.

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CillGuy t1_je582m4 wrote

Our society and economic system is far from fair. That doesn't refute my original point though.

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dewayneestes t1_je2zes7 wrote

The best Star Wars movie was the one with the tightest budget. Tight budgets make people more creative and efficient at problem solving because they make trade offs as opposed to just throwing everything in regardless of cost.

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Spawn7586 t1_je469sz wrote

Still, most of the movies with tight budgets will fail (and you'll probably never even see them). Exactly like one can come from a poor neighborhood and become famous while the rest of the neighborhood stays in poverty.

There's a good Veritasium video about success and how polarizing it is, basically if one person out of 100 (doing the same things) succeed, doesn't mean that what he/she did was the formula of success. Maybe he/she was lucky, but we will still say that doing those steps provide a chance to succeed even though it was merely by chance.

Statistically speaking, people coming from wealthy families will achieve success simply 'cause even if you do nothing more than safe investments you'll still get more profits... You also get access to better schools and in return you'll get access to better jobs and so on so forth

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_tyjsph_ t1_je4l0qh wrote

you have a better chance of becoming a pop star when your dad can book you a hollywood studio session with shellback and pay every radio station in 100 miles to play your song versus putting your self produced garageband song on soundcloud though

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CillGuy t1_je584w7 wrote

"I understand how money can make things easier sometimes. That’s still far from a guarantee."

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thewags05 t1_je4eg05 wrote

Us that right out of grad school or after a few years. My salary has doubled since finishing grad school 8 years ago.

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Lord_Sirrush t1_je4t8w6 wrote

Soo engineer here. There is a good reason for that. I have met quite a few PhDs that can't make the transition from academics to work. I have probably watched 5 million dollars worth of gear get destroyed over the years due to new grad PhDs with our common sense. Some you can throw in a padded room to feed math to and get some theories that can be refined, some become real assets to your team and an over all force multiplier, others just go back to acidemia to teach new PhDs without common sense.

PhD is the shortcut to success but that doesn't mean you still don't have to walk the path. You just start one rung up the ladder and you get promoted in half the time( or meet experience requirements faster when applying for new jobs).

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Electronic_Jacket_31 t1_je3xosr wrote

I ll give you children when you find me on my fertile days..I promise. We don't even need that much money tbh just a good venue

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