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nowyourdoingit t1_jdg82lh wrote

You're not actually saying anything. You're lost in a semantic hole. Neurons doing things IS what we mean by free will. You, you bundle of neurons, have agency in the world. Read some Dennett and chill

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[deleted] OP t1_jdgh4m0 wrote

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nowyourdoingit t1_jdhd5g6 wrote

The first part. That's what it is. That's all it is. But that's also all we need it to be. LLMs are just token weighting machine run on silicon. They can still output poetry. Our self-reflexive cognition is meaningfuly different but still the same kind of thing, inputs and calculation cascades which is how we decide to do A or B, which is free will.

You open an old school thermostat and you find a coil of metal that expands and contracts depending on the temp ans you say "wait, it's not really telling the temparature, it's just a piece of non-thinking non-calculating metal". But it is telling the temparature in the way we mean a thermostat tells the temparature, which is the only meaningful and important way we mean thermostats tell the temparature. You being sad their isn't a fairy in the box doesn't lessen what the metal coil is doing.

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[deleted] OP t1_jdi03vr wrote

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nowyourdoingit t1_jdi5e4q wrote

Read literally any book by Daniel Dennett if you a primer on this

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ctbasie t1_jdi9oar wrote

(Quick google)

Daniel Dennett, the materialist?

So an english lesson

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ctbasie t1_jdigib6 wrote

"It’s complicated, and I apologize for that, but it’s worth getting right. The very first question we have to ask is: Are we human beings 100 percent governed by the laws of physics? Or do we, as conscious creatures, have some wiggle room that allows us to act in ways that are outside of the laws of physics? Almost all scientists will tell you that of course it’s the former." -Sean Carroll

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