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suckleknuckle t1_jdfn75m wrote

Your consciousness does which it isn’t fully understand what that is

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izza123 t1_jdfnjng wrote

If we didn’t have free will we would always react in the same way to the same stimuli. But as it is we can choose to react in different ways even when subjected to the exact same stimulus.

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izza123 t1_jdfsohl wrote

What the hell does it have to do with fear? Lol it’s the only alternative. If we didn’t have free will we would be solely reacting to stimuli without choice as to how we react.

I feel like maybe you’re really confused about what I’m saying or just bizarrely hostile for no reason lol

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izza123 t1_jdfua42 wrote

Are you mentally ill? It’s been 3 minutes since you last responded to me. Did it even occur to you that I’m not sitting here, just waiting to instantly respond to you.

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nowyourdoingit t1_jdg82lh wrote

You're not actually saying anything. You're lost in a semantic hole. Neurons doing things IS what we mean by free will. You, you bundle of neurons, have agency in the world. Read some Dennett and chill

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nowyourdoingit t1_jdhd5g6 wrote

The first part. That's what it is. That's all it is. But that's also all we need it to be. LLMs are just token weighting machine run on silicon. They can still output poetry. Our self-reflexive cognition is meaningfuly different but still the same kind of thing, inputs and calculation cascades which is how we decide to do A or B, which is free will.

You open an old school thermostat and you find a coil of metal that expands and contracts depending on the temp ans you say "wait, it's not really telling the temparature, it's just a piece of non-thinking non-calculating metal". But it is telling the temparature in the way we mean a thermostat tells the temparature, which is the only meaningful and important way we mean thermostats tell the temparature. You being sad their isn't a fairy in the box doesn't lessen what the metal coil is doing.

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ctbasie t1_jdigib6 wrote

"It’s complicated, and I apologize for that, but it’s worth getting right. The very first question we have to ask is: Are we human beings 100 percent governed by the laws of physics? Or do we, as conscious creatures, have some wiggle room that allows us to act in ways that are outside of the laws of physics? Almost all scientists will tell you that of course it’s the former." -Sean Carroll

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