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GenPhallus t1_iu2p9v9 wrote

Reply to comment by groovy_giraffe in Beef is a more moral meat than chicken because you get more food per life taken by I-Am-Polaris

Animals definitely torture and rape (which falls in the torture category)

Ducks, cats, chimpanzees, dolphins, orcas. Play with their food, harass other animals for fun, spite, and I believe some species of ape have been observed having wars between families. I wanna say the word is "troop" for a group of apes.

And many animals definitely are somewhat aware of themselves. We've taught apes sign language, taught dogs and cats to communicate with sound boards. Just a matter of helping them make the connections.

Vegans would have a much easier time converting people if they weren't assholes about it, because they do have some solid points. I'm cool with plant based and other cruelty free options. If we can find a way to mimic burgers and steaks consistently at a similar or lower price point I'd happily give them up for good.

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VeganGlitter t1_iu311tv wrote

Animals do not even scratch the surface of the amount of torture and rape done to other species. You making that kind of statement is like saying there is a glass of water in the ocean. Humans rape, torture, and murder animals systematically by the thousands every second. There is a VERY big difference. All animals have consciousness the same as humans. All feel pain and suffering just like humans. So if you make that distinction of apes, cats, and dogs having similar attributes to humans, then you would have to make the same connection for all other animals as well.
I find it sad that people actually believe that Vegans are assholes when Vegans are defending rape, torture, and murder of innocent beings, and the other is advocating their right to do so. Absolutely insane, but that's the norm for most of the world. Like, how brainwashed the human species is to reality is just sad.
At what cost is life? An animal takes more input than growing plants.

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I-Am-Polaris OP t1_iu3v3pv wrote

Holy wall of texts, this is hilarious lmao

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VeganGlitter t1_iu5dxmn wrote

I find it sad that you think this kind of discussion is "hilarious."

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I-Am-Polaris OP t1_iu5fz4l wrote

Still funny as shit, I jokingly made a post I figured would be downvoted and ignored, now there's a massive war thats still going

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