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Dogzilla66 t1_iu350oa wrote

In the entire history of life, do you think there’s ever been an organism that doesn’t want to live?

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CousinDerylHickson t1_iu35gu7 wrote

Well I think things like plants probably dont care on an emotional level, since it seems like all of their responses to external factors could be explained by simpler chemical mechanisms happening naturally. And ya, i agree that most animals seem like they want to live.

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Dogzilla66 t1_iu3t1gn wrote

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CousinDerylHickson t1_iu4oy4x wrote

But I'd say the plant response is still a simpler mechanism than an animals flight or fight response, with many animals actually having a complex nervous system to choose a response and to actually be able to perform the (I'd say) more complicated response. Like for a plant, if it senses any damage, it would probably respond in the same fashion for the most part for all damage done, whereas lots of animals when damaged will consider many factors and their variance, like the amount of damage, the mode of damage, and how much danger it is still in (at least we can infer from how they respond to variances in the parameters), which will subsequently change its potentially complex response (like place foot here, balance, activate muscle fibers to move in a particular chosen direction, avoid obstacles, etc), which itself could be highly varying. I'd say this complexity in an animal's decision making makes it more likely that animals have feelings compared to plants, which while they may send out signals similar to ours in response to damage, they dont seem to be complex enough to make varying decisions based on those signals (which in animals would probably be interpreted as feelings).

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