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poobearcatbomber t1_iu4sfn6 wrote

Because we know what drives humans through studies. We know what we're biologically drawn towards.

By meant, I mean what our bodies are programmed for. Who programmed them and for what use? Who fucking knows.

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_Blackstar t1_iu4trb7 wrote

Are we though? When people want to get married, have kids, and live that white picket fence dream... How much of that is biological programming and how much of that is social programming?

I love to bang, but I've never knocked anyone up and I'm about to go in for the snip so I don't have to. And it seems that more and more people with the mind set are starting pop up.

Humans have sex for pleasure, for emotional support and stability, for validation, etc. To say we were built up work a certain way, when there's so many humans that are the exception and not the rule, seems incorrect to me. I believe we've already evolved past the point of species propagation for survival, there's no need to carry on one's genes when billions of others are already doing it.

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poobearcatbomber t1_iu4xo4r wrote

People aren't having kids anymore because it's expensive, and quality of life is declining.

If everyone had everything they needed including time, a lot more people would be having kids. Pleasure is what interests us in sex, but offspring is what drives our biology. Baby fever, ya know?

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JCPRuckus t1_iu5gx70 wrote

>I love to bang, but I've never knocked anyone up and I'm about to go in for the snip so I don't have to. And it seems that more and more people with the mind set are starting pop up.

You're not supposed to be able to prevent pregnancy. Your "loving to bang" is supposed to lead to a pregnancy, whether you intend one or not.

>Humans have sex for pleasure, for emotional support and stability, for validation, etc.

All of those good feelings are, again, supposed to lead to pregnancy, which we could not reliably prevent when we were evolving into modern humans.

>I believe we've already evolved past the point of species propagation for survival, there's no need to carry on one's genes when billions of others are already doing it.

Until everyone decides that and no one reproduces... Tragedy of the commons... That's exactly why we evolved to enjoy sex so much, so that we'd accidentally keep having kids even if this idea came into our heads.

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_Blackstar t1_iu5mxrf wrote

> Until everyone decides that and no one reproduces...

I don't see that happening, and even if it did, then would that be us unprogramming or being reprogrammed a different way?

My entire point is, I don't think humans have one set way of doing things and I don't think our purpose is simply to multiply. Sure from a biological standpoint that's how it was in the past. But going back to the hypothetical aliens made us argument, who's to say biological propagation (the desire to fuck and to be a parent) wasn't just a stepping stone to get us to a point where we're supposed to do something greater with the gift of life?

Now I'm not saying that IS the case either, just pointing out that as it stands, we're too insignificant and ignorant to say definitively as OP put, "what you're really here for."

Nobody knows what we're here for, and that's what makes studying our history, our genetics, our own minds, and the universe we inhabit so much fun.

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JCPRuckus t1_iu6klt6 wrote

>My entire point is, I don't think humans have one set way of doing things and I don't think our purpose is simply to multiply. Sure from a biological standpoint that's how it was in the past. But going back to the hypothetical aliens made us argument, who's to say biological propagation (the desire to fuck and to be a parent) wasn't just a stepping stone to get us to a point where we're supposed to do something greater with the gift of life?

>Now I'm not saying that IS the case either, just pointing out that as it stands, we're too insignificant and ignorant to say definitively as OP put, "what you're really here for."

>Nobody knows what we're here for, and that's what makes studying our history, our genetics, our own minds, and the universe we inhabit so much fun.

Until everyone decides that and no one reproduces...

We can't live transcended beyond procreation, because once we stop procreating we go extinct.

If you meditate long enough, once you start starving in earnest you'll probably start seeing some really transcendent hallucinations before you drop dead. Maybe that's the only true pathway to heaven/eternal bliss... But I'm not going to try it. And I'll bet you're not going to try it. So maybe we should slow down on suggesting that all of humanity should do the rough equivalent as a species.

If I wanted to live by bad metaphysical musings, I'd pick a major religion. At least those generally aren't explicitly aimed at annihilation of humanity.

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