Submitted by PandaKing185 t3_ycu0ke in Showerthoughts
OkOwl3606 t1_itofhha wrote
Reply to comment by IVIaster222 in It takes longer to make a cold pizza than a hot pizza by PandaKing185
If you dont put it in the oven the dough and yeast wont become bread. Sooooooo its not a pizza till you heat it
IVIaster222 t1_itogirf wrote
I'd argue that pizza dough with toppings on it is just an uncooked pizza, in the same way that cookie dough is just an uncooked cookie, or that cake batter is just uncooked cake.
Finb0 t1_itousrz wrote
But is cookie dough really a cookie? And what happens if you bake a cake with the cookie dough? Is it a cake? How long has it been a cake and not a cookie?
I agree though that you don't have to heat a pizza to call it a pizza. You could, for example, put pizza topping on a tortilla and argue that it's a pizza without heating it
Designer_Storyteller t1_itoycow wrote
I’d just call that an ‘insult to pizza.’
hedgybaby t1_itp8vmj wrote
As an italian I want to cry but also taste the tortizza
razzec_phone t1_itprd1a wrote
They are delicious. Here's how I make them for one of my boys:
Grab a tortilla and lay it out flat on a baking sheet. Cover it evenly with a thin layer of cheese. I usually add insult to injury here by using taco blend shredded cheese for this step.
Cover this with another tortilla. Add your pizza sauce and spread it out evenly, making sure not to use too much. Then add your regular shredded cheese (Mozzarella or Fiesta blend) and then top with your toppings of choice.
Mine are usually ground beef and crumbled bacon. The son I usually make this for likes Italian sausage and the other son will sometimes eat his with just pepperoni.
hedgybaby t1_itq2nkl wrote
fiesta blend???
razzec_phone t1_itqxts6 wrote
Lol. Yeah, places like Walmart and Kroger usually have one that's basically the same as the taco blend but without the taco seasoning mixed in. Not sure why they call it Fiesta blend but mah, still good lol
Steel_Cube t1_itphz7t wrote
The tortussy
hedgybaby t1_itpq3iu wrote
Now it sounds like tortoise 🐢
Livid-Ad4102 t1_itp0k5y wrote
You can't bake a cake with cookie dough that's just an odd shaped cookie
Finb0 t1_itp0os4 wrote
What if you put several layers to it? And topping, cookies rarely have toppings right?
Ballbag94 t1_itp6bnk wrote
I would say that it's the constituent parts and differences in consistency that makes something what it is, not its final physical appearance
If you put icing and sweets on top of a cookie it doesn't stop being a cookie, it's just an iced cookie. If you layer a bunch of cookies I think you could probably call it a cookie cake, but it's not just "cake" as it doesn't have the right composition, it's simply cookies in the form of a cake
Finb0 t1_itpwr0a wrote
Well, that's where I agree with you as for my main argument about the tortilla pizza.
I can't agree that cookie dough is a cookie though, which a commenter stated earlier.
So if we take uncooked cookie dough and layer it I couldn't call it a cookie in the form of a cake; it's fundamental to cook the dough before it's a cookie
Ballbag94 t1_itpxcxl wrote
>I can't agree that cookie dough is a cookie though,
Definitely, it doesn't count as a cookie until it's baked, part of being a cookie requires baking, but once the dough is mixed I don't think it can become anything other than a cookie
>So if we take uncooked cookie dough and layer it I couldn't call it a cookie in the form of a cake; it's fundamental to cook the dough before it's a cookie
Completely agree there, I'd call it cookie dough in the form of a cake, however once baked I wouldn't call it a cake, because it doesn't have the composition required of a cake
Finb0 t1_itpxr1m wrote
Hahah okay but what if we put a cake foundation under the cookie dough cake (and between each layer), is it a cake now with cookie dough filling? The cookie dough has in this case also become something else than a cookie; a cake filling?
Ballbag94 t1_itpxxf9 wrote
Hmm...I think in this instance we've created a new object by combining cookies with cake, a cakie if you will
Helpful_Assistance_5 t1_itouasl wrote
I'm fairly sure one of the criteria for "COOK-ie" is for the process to involve cooking. Otherwise it's just a "Lumpy" and no one wants that.
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