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AxialGem t1_j1jm75a wrote

How many times does it need to be said that oil doesn't come from dinosaurs for this stubborn myth to finally disappear?

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ramtax666 t1_j1jt1gr wrote

This is probably a karma farmer so many more times.

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LittleBullBoy t1_j1ju7ma wrote

Fossil fuels still come from the remains of mostly dead plants and some animals, so I’m sure dinosaurs are involved in some fashion.

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AxialGem t1_j1jx8q8 wrote

Well, as I understand it, the vast majority of coal comes from, well, the carboniferous (litt. 'coal-bearing') and also from the permian. Dinosaurs didn't exist at that time.

Petroleum is found in sedimentary rocks, and is mostly zooplankton and algae. You know, sediment. Zooplankton is indeed animals, but things like fish eggs and small larvae of various stuff. For petroleum to form, organic matter needs to settle to the bottom of a body of water and decompose without oxygen.

Dinosaurs don't tend to do that in large amounts, for a couple of reasons.

1: Dinosaurs are vanishingly small percentage of the biomass of an ecosystem, especially compared with plants

2: As far as I know there were no (fully) aquatic dinosaurs, so it's not a likely place for them to die to begin with

In conclusion, saying that fossil fuels are made of dinosaurs is about as correct as saying that peanut butter is made of flies because the occasional fly part might be in there. It's misleading. I'm not a paleontologist or geologist, so feel free to correct me ofc, but I'm fairly confident it's not dinos lol

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LittleBullBoy t1_j1k6p5q wrote

I think what you’ve written makes sense.

I don’t know enough about different types of fossil fuels, where they are all found, and how it relates to dead things from the Mesozoic era to contest anything you’ve claimed.

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DkindCrhymes t1_j1knrj7 wrote

If only there were some infinitely vast collection of information at our fingertips, through which we could look up such simple questions.

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LittleBullBoy t1_j1ktrum wrote

If only I was willing to waste my time “researching” fossil fuels and the Mesozoic era to then anoint myself an expert in the field that’s do ‘doing my own research’. If only I was arrogant to think that these are such simple questions.

At what depths, and locations, are all types of fossil fuels found around the world?

What are all the locations and depths of dinosaur life that died ?

Calculate probability that, on some reasonable level, these remains formed hydrocarbon materials potentially used as fuel?

Super simple.

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Umpteenth_zebra t1_j1jjsz2 wrote

There are more pressing problems. You shouldn't use fossil fuels because they're polluting anyway, but veganism is about not harming animals by encouraging exploitation by using their products.

Oil and gas come from ancient plants mainly, and you are not harming the ancient animals by using their fossils even if it did come from animals.

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DongLongus t1_j1jp2wp wrote

Is it exploitation if it’s needed to survive? It’s closer to exploiting the hunger of people than exploiting animals

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kaldor_draino t1_j1uu6gx wrote

most sane rittenhouse enjoyer

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DongLongus t1_j1uy6k6 wrote

What does rittenhouse have to do with veganism

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kaldor_draino t1_j1uylo0 wrote

What do brain dead takes have to do with other brain dead takes?

Usually means the owner of those takes is… Brain dead.

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DongLongus t1_j1uzcyl wrote

You still didn’t answer anything, if what I said is braindead but you can’t put it into words then you’re the problem

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DkindCrhymes t1_j1kntx4 wrote

Well, since eating animals isn’t needed to survive it doesn’t really matter anyway. Source: am vegan and am also alive.

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addy_daddy_07 t1_j1js9sp wrote

Largely from from plant matter and thought to be mostly algae

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DkindCrhymes t1_j1knndp wrote

No it doesn’t. The vast majority of fossil fuels come from plants, namely trees during a specific interval in history, because detritivores hadn’t yet evolved the ability to break down lignin. Funny how many people actually think fossil fuels are derived from dinosaur remains.

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Timigos t1_j1kylhu wrote

Stupid people shouldn’t post because they don’t understand science

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Bottle_Nachos t1_j1ncs60 wrote

vegans aren't at fault that their environment is build on fossil fuels and animal products; if you're forced to use a car to survive, others don't have a right to nag about it.

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scottslut t1_j1jwok0 wrote

What do you think? Dinosaurs just died in huge piles that became our oceans of oil? Just saying. https://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/we-are-not-running-out-of-oil-earth-produces-crude/

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JD_Blaze t1_j1ld7fq wrote

True. Humans could even manufacture oil and refine gasoline from it... But multinational corporations take crude oil bc it has a better profit margin & they have to maintain the overwhelmingly successful guise of scarcity, bc that too is good for profit margins.

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