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Wow, that's amazing! It sure is a testament to the strength & resilience of our ancestors and it gives us hope for the future. We should take this as a reminder to be mindful of our actions and take responsibility for the world we leave behind.

True. The past can give strength.. We are at a point where we have so much to lose. We should struggle to leave a good, habitable world behind.

Humans and Dinosaurs missed each other by about 65 million years

Actually, most of us have 1 ancestor.... Genghis Khan. That boy was BUSY.

We still have direct ancestors that survived the K-Pg extinction event. OP didn't say they had to be human

0.5% of men are descendants of ghengis khan

If you’re white there’s a high chance you’re a descendant of charlamagne

And we are about to break family tradition and be the primary victims of the 6th global mass extinction ...

Next time you do stupid shit like be anti-vax or anti-science, consider your ancestors who survived the various plagues and wars and bears and shit and maybe try and improve yourself instead?

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yeah, keep in mind that they were mostly just tiny rat-like creatures who fucked all the time.

Nah let's test our kids once more , just to be sure we can survive.

Our ancestors aren't necessarily human

You’re just preaching to the choir, you have no idea about how people become anti vax or whatever

The history of evolution on earth is so fucking cool. It's a shame that so many people are either scared of evolution or don't care to learn about it.

Only small mammals survived the Chicxulub extinction, no apes, no horses, cows. So the mammal prototype of one heart, two lungs, four limbs is what we evolved from.

To be fair to the anti-vax crowd, there is a certain negative logic in this: the vast majority of those ancestors, all but the last seven or so generations of them, survived all of that shit without vaccines, at least long enough to reproduce.

>one heart, two lungs, four limbs

That's the ancestral condition for all tetrapods, not just mammals of course :p

Fox News and political propagandization?

Tbh if you'd ask me which species were gonna survive the current mass extinction, humans would be near the top of my list

yeah but a huge lot of them also died long before that.

How would that work? Everything alive today has an unbroken reproductive line back to the first life on earth, by definition absolutely none of anyone’s direct line ancestors died before reaching reproductive age.

I am not talking about direct ancestors, but ancestors. A lot of your great-great-great....-aunts and uncles died, because of lacking medicine hygiene, famine, war, accidents and a whole lot of other preventable reasons.
The argument that humanity survived before vaccines is like this dumb tweet that the black plague disappeared on its own. It just killed a third of Europe's population to do so.

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I'm the end of the line.

No kids now, no kids ever, sister was murdered at 12, no other siblings, parents both too old for more.

We all share one female ancestor and one male ancestor, though they never met each other. Mitochondrial Eve and Chromosomal Adam.

So technically we're all cousins.

We have a whole lot more ancestors who didnt survive any of those. We made the race!

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Yup, the mammal template by this point was Warm Blood, Specialised Teeth, legs below plane of body.

I'd prefer they anti-vax crowd thin their own herd. For the good of the species.

And not a single one was gay.

I know, I know, you can be gay but be in a heterosexual relationship out of fear or whatnot. What if I said “a practicing homosexual.”?

Yeah that's literly it, iv had multiple anti vaxers in my family, and it's either fox news, or some outdated news post 12 years ago that says kids could get autism (which I would think to be better then a terminal illness but whatever)

Same thoughts here, humans are severely underrated in terms of survivability, and adaptability. We're in every continent for a reason.

Why are there high chances to be descendant of Charlamagne? Didn't he hav only one wife? Unlike Genghis

Right but an antivaxxer might say something about the strong surviving, dont mess with nature, etc. that argument works in the simplest sense, because it disregards any ancestors that arent direct ones as weak and irrelevant lol. Obviously its a flawed argument when you think critically for more than three seconds.

Researchers using genomic data place the latter date around A.D. 1000. So Christopher Lee's royal lineage is unexceptional: because Charlemagne lived before the isopoint and has living descendants, everyone with European ancestry is directly descended from him.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/charlemagnes-dna-and-our-universal-royalty

We’re here only because those mass extinctions occurred. Many of our physical features are a result as well. We can eat and breathe at the same time because our ancestors survived the great dying. we have thumbs because the small mammals that outlived the Dinos found a niche eating fruit in trees, also resulting in our lack of onboard vitamin C production

That’s quite right and reputable medical journals such as The British Medical Journal consistently document the superiority of the bodies’ own immune response to being exposed to the virus via person to person transmission over the response produced by any of the current vaccines.

Those hundreds of millions/billions of years of evolution have given us immune systems far more complex and capable than that of an altered version of the virus.

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True. But your ancestors still survived the dinosaurs.

Incorrect.

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Really? How many diseases have we wiped out before the vaccines and how many with?

Unfortunately we can't segregate them and actually I don't want to. They're people too and I don't want them to die from doing something stupid.

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I have the pictures, my great great great great great great great great great Uncle Uga Ugauga used to ride a pterodactyl to and from school every day.

You in the closet homie.

Your user name is Obiwan Blowme.. And... Uhhhh this is living rent free in your head

Hi cousin

Also.. Does that mean .... Sweet Home Alabama.

We’ve wiped out two or three viruses. We didn’t have to deal too much with Tetanus or Polio now with vaccines.

I'm sorry for your sister .. :(

Welp not really the end of the line for your grandpa/etc if you have cousins and nephew/niece

End for your personal yes but eh doesn't really matter.

Also you can donate sperm/egg help someone who wants a kid maybe.

The primary cause id say! The victims are all the ones already extinct and on their way.

:D

And we aren't, the big corpos are.

Neighbors down the street ain't responsible for anthropogenic global extinction but big oil corporate house which lobbies against change is

There is a difference between them and us. Almost a whole different species you could say.

Soon gonna be on every star this side of proxima century

Ain't my ancestor I don't think.

And by law of probability, many of them were bisexual.

Procreating with the opposite sex, taking a pleasure ride with the same.

So gay sex is nature approved so long as you're bi then, right? Okay then.

See you later.

Underrated? This has to be the least fitting use of the term I've ever heard! Who on earth has ever underrated the human knack for survival?

Surely the fact that we exist should prevent that idea from ever existing?

I mean we've done pretty well.

But there's always a crossover point...

Wait what do you mean with 'crossover point?'

Warm blood and fetus that grow in their belly, you forgot this part.

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The apes are literally this little fella's descendants. Like cows and horses, BTW.

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You can say that about every virus that has ever existed during any point in time because none of them have ever wiped out the entire human race. We have always survived. The point of a vax is to get more people to survive.

That would mean she/he is no longer “the end of the line” if she/he donates and it’s used

Do you not want kids?

Obviously. That's why suggested it, if they want that.

If the ancestors of humans weren’t around on earth at the same time as dinosaurs, then what did humans evolve from when you look that far back? Aliens?

Applying your implied logic that these ancestors of ours weren’t human, as we know it, we didn’t ‘outlive the dinosaurs’. Their ancestors are still here too.

Some of The dino descendants are here ye, birds and shit.

They also outlived the dinos... In a changed form.

Their ancestors or ours didn't outlive anyone though. Okly descendants.

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It most absolutely does cuz 😎 I teach middle school history. I intro'd this concept with something like "Who thinks Zendaya is cute? Wow. She is your COUSIN. That is DISGUSTING." They got a kick out of it.

Possibly. Or God.

All the anti vaxers will die out soon enough anyway. Evolution will fix it.

They will die out tho, far quicker than the rest of us.

Nah my family came over on the Blyzerxh, it’s like an alien mayflower, but it only arrived a couple hundred years ago

No.

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I don't know why you're getting downvoted, but yes I did forget live birth.

Wiped out? Or gained immunity to?

Over billions of years? How many viruses? Compared to the 100 or so years of vaccination?

All of us have the same ancestors that survived those events.

I wish that "where were your ancestors during the asteroid?" could replace smalltalk.

Probably cowering under a dunghill.

Dinosaur? I think you mean a "Jesus horse"

Seriously though, our ancestors were the shrew-like mammals that survived the K-T extinction event that ended the dinosaur era.

Not me. I'm descended from some guy named Steve who was Charlamagne's cousin's gardener.

You clearly haven't heard all the shit talk humans give humans then

With all the crap in the world right now maybe some should have been left behind? Oh and theres a slight gap between man and dinosaurs